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#1 Mar 06 2005 at 4:52 AM Rating: Default
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=34023&d=0

This is a representation of the people in Eternal Knights, this is probably why their LS is so hated, people like this are in it.
#2 Mar 06 2005 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent


Edited, Sun Mar 6 07:44:45 2005 by proofsockII
#3 Mar 06 2005 at 8:43 AM Rating: Excellent
I liked this part:

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Think about this... you all say its just a game. Just a game. Then why do you hate people who do something you do not do, if its just a game? When you say its just a game, your lying to yourself, cause if it just a game, it would not bother you.

We play in a time where you "have to" have certain gear or else you are looked down upon and called a lazy *** who doesnt want to spend 3 weeks farming for one piece of gear. Its not the gill sellers or buyers that have made the "must have" items so expensive. You might come back and tell me "look at what happened to the snipers, thats all the gill sellers fault." No its not. Its because we are all to stuck up on the idea that we have to have certain items to be good because sending an extra 30 seconds during a fight is totally unacceptable.

So now that we think that we need these items(sniper rings, scrop.harness, haubergeon, etc etc), people will pay those prices because they think they have to. If we change how we think about this game and say "hey i dont have to have these items" no one will buy them at the totally outrageuos prices. So the prices will fall down. Way down. But that will never happen, not because people will buy gil, but because we will never change the way we think.

Gil sellers arnt making the prices so high. Its the people that think we need those items and will pay whatever to get them. My final thouhts: Change the way you think. Dont pay outrageous prices for things that arnt absolutly needed.


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gil buying is not ruining the game. you all have no idea how this works do you...

now, i personally dont agree with supporting the gil sellers. for the most part, because they use third party programs to claim NMs and that is ruining the game.

now, if you learn a craft, or learn how to garden elemental ores like i have, you can make your money easily without actually being in game most of the time.

think about this though. if you make 15 bucks an hour. and have the potential to make about 30k an hour in game , wouldnt you just pick up an extra hour at your job to buy gil? i mean, it's much easier, you get the gil 10x faster. it's simply more profitable. '

economically speaking, for people with real decent jobs, gil buying is more economically sound.

it's that simple.

whoever this character posting about buying gil is a real jerk it seems. but at least try to see both sides of the coin. please. be objective.

btw, wind ore is up to 300k on diabolos. i usually get 3-4 at a time from each mule. 1200k from ores - 200k for the cost = 1 million gil every 3 weeks. X3 mules alternated so i harvest once a week = 4 million gil a month.

i suggest those of you that are angry because this person buys gil and salty because he has the equipment that you want learn to garden. it's incredible monye ^^


Makes you see both sides of the matter.

However, point is, there's no proof that that is actually the player posting. Look at the trouble people have gone to to cause drama (Cray's pic at ffxiplayers for example?).

What I don't understand is why you're going to so much trouble, Hellkid. If you don't like them, fine, /blist or other ignore the lot of 'em. From the few experiances I've had with EK they seem alright. No better and no worse than average. I think we get the idea that you don't like them, fine. Point made. Now how about making more productive threads and less spam in here, eh?
#4 Mar 06 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=56&mid=1107201469904016775&num=56

I already called this loser out in a recent thread, and he responded with some garbage about working hard for his gear and apologizing for his attitude. Anyone who has had the "honor" of being in a party with this guy knows that he can **** people off pretty easily. My guess is that the post is a fake from someone he annoyed.
#5 Mar 06 2005 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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This might not actually be Zhaneel from EK. He only has 3 posts.

I'll ask about this.
#6 Mar 07 2005 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good


Edited, Mon Mar 7 16:23:37 2005 by LionsFan
#7REDACTED, Posted: Mar 07 2005 at 3:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Anyhoo, I think he made a new name because 'Hellkid' has **** poor rating on it because a lot of "trolls" and "************* and "********" rated him down.
#8 Mar 07 2005 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good


Edited, Mon Mar 7 16:28:39 2005 by LionsFan
#9 Mar 07 2005 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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1. I don't think one person is indictive for an entire LS man...

2. Also I think spamming Lower Jeuno hampers the game as much as gil-sellers do... and lets see how did you get all your money?

3. I have friends in EK they are all great good players who I have a lot of partying/questing with I don't know what you're whole coniption is but whatever it may be but all I have to say is "Lose Itâ„¢"

4. Seriously man let go... move on... you can be better than this. Why all this flaming?

5. Why the signature? and if people hate EK so much? why do people go out of their way to tell me NOT to invite you? In/outside of EK it makes no difference, you're on 100's of Blists... if you continue to act this way you're about to be on mine... C'mon hellkid I think you're ok at times. Just act riteous... please.

I'm f'ing sick of all these flames lately guys... :( please can't we just be constuctive?



#10 Mar 07 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Crayola, I believe Hellkid had to get a new game because he's an @$$hole and this forum has ways of dealing with little ***** like him. Respect -2 for Crayola, I almost wanted to give you a chance with all the crap that goes on these forums about you.

And that's not the real Zhaneel, so good job getting the wrong guy Hellkid.
#11 Mar 07 2005 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
I don't like the fact that he's bragging about it. So you can buy Gil, so what? I could too if I really wanted to.

Even if I ever bought Gil and purchased all of this badass armor, I wouldn't go and call everyone noobs. I mean, ****, cmon. "I bought Gil and you're a noob because you didn't buy Gil and you have to farm and waste time to get your armor like omgz0rs!!!111oneoneone I'm so 1337!!111oneoneone."

I don't buy Gil, I don't sell Gil. There is no sense in ******** about people selling and buying Gil. You think that calling them noobs or whatever will make them stop? No. They're not going to listen, they're going to laugh at you and then flaunt the gear that the rest of us can't afford.

I think him going off and calling everyone else a noob is uncalled for. For the people who buy Gil, they should just shutup and not brag about it. Ohhhhhh, you paid real money for fake money, do I give a ****? No. Well, not unless you give me some.
#12 Mar 07 2005 at 7:24 PM Rating: Default
SirEaglestrike wrote:
Respect -2 for Crayola
I almost wanted to give you a chance with all the crap that goes on these forums about you.


Respect -2 for Crayola? what the **** did I do?
#13 Mar 07 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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What you did was seemingly support Hellkid. He is now merely a forum troll, who knows nothing except hate for EK. If you read him on Vnboards, he's unable to post ANYTHING without including some EK bash. Such actions are immature and uncalled for.

For trying to explain his karma was dropped from "trolls" is silly. His karma dropped because this forum decided he was a useless troll and they would prefer to not hear him speak.

Note: I never saw any of Hellkids posts, by the time I actually came here on a regular basis he was too low to be seen through my filters.

Gogeta: That is not the real Zhaneel, that is someone who made that name and is making fun of them. Much like "Crayola in Bastok" on ffxiplayers is someone being an immature @$$hole to make fun of Crayola.
#14 Mar 07 2005 at 9:29 PM Rating: Default
SirEaglestrike wrote:
What you did was seemingly support Hellkid. He is now merely a forum troll, who knows nothing except hate for EK. If you read him on Vnboards, he's unable to post ANYTHING without including some EK bash. Such actions are immature and uncalled for.

For trying to explain his karma was dropped from "trolls" is silly. His karma dropped because this forum decided he was a useless troll and they would prefer to not hear him speak.

Note: I never saw any of Hellkids posts, by the time I actually came here on a regular basis he was too low to be seen through my filters.

Gogeta: That is not the real Zhaneel, that is someone who made that name and is making fun of them. Much like "Crayola in Bastok" on ffxiplayers is someone being an immature @$$hole to make fun of Crayola.


"I like Hellkid, I like Kramer." I said this already... I wasn't picking sides or anything. I met Kramer way before Hellkid but I know Hellkid from the casino scenes. I like anyone for that matter until they **** me off, then I have a reason to have beef with them. Neither Kramer nor Hellkid have pissed me off... so don't lose respect in me because I haven't taken any sides with anyone. I only said the thing about trolls because when I originally started posting on here I had a rating of 5.00 from giving good advice I guess on food related forums. And the second I came on here and had opinions my rate went down to below 3... so Im only sympathizing him based on his rating and having to make a new name. I think you misread my whole point...
#15 Mar 07 2005 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I know you said you supported both, but my point is that any support of Hellkid = loss of respect.

And you honestly think nothing of the enormous amount of hate and disrespect Hellkid shows people? Namely EK, as I can't name too much else in that regard. Do you simply not care how he is treating other people?

In regards to you and your rating, I have read some of your posts and thought "Wow she really needs to get a grip" and I've also read some posts and wanted to say "congrats" "good job" or "thank you" I think the former posts are the ones that drag on longer, so you get more rate downs that way.
#16 Mar 08 2005 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
i'm 100% sure this is the right Zhaneel, he/she/***** is a huge bragger first time i met him/her/******* all he/she/***** did was brag brag brag about everything he had
#17 Mar 08 2005 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not. Not only has Zhaneel denied it, but he did not have internet connection all weekend because of his college. And I know he's not lying about that because we just did our first big god run this weekend and he missed it ALL, which he would not do.

So you are wrong.
#18 Mar 08 2005 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
SirEaglestrike wrote:
I know you said you supported both, but my point is that any support of Hellkid = loss of respect.


If you're gonna ride my ***, can you at least pull my hair so I can enjoy it?
#19 Mar 08 2005 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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(Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.)
#20 Mar 08 2005 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
@Ladynoob: Yea, I noticed that after I made that post.

Oh well, my thoughts still stand even though it wasn't really him.
#21 Mar 08 2005 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with most of what you said, just letting you know that Zhaneel isn't the guy who said it ;)
#22 Mar 08 2005 at 2:59 AM Rating: Default
damm eagle strike stfu.....lmao, if im such a forum troll and so many hate me, why have only you posted this, wheres all the others that me and blah blah...jeez I talked to zhaaneel tonight we had pretty good talk. But ur just a jackass that posts 50 million posts a day, cuz you {jerkin} to ffxi. Dork *** **** log off and go outside, catch a movie or something jeez just get away from the cpu for a minute...rofl ^^ o just fyi im rich biotch
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