Hello many Shiva members.
Many of you already know what this is about, Some of you do not.
On Monday, some members left (list of about 10) Vindicated and created another beginning linkshell on a deceitful endeavor. That is not what this post is about. It’s their choice. That’s how it goes. We still have over 50 members and this event has pulled us even closer so that’s fine. It is clear that the people left want to be there for the right reasons and it brings unity.
The ISSUE of this post:
The conflict here lies: One of the members, Rokugen, actually did not leave until I believe Tuesday because he did not want to hand over the LS Kirin Osode.
Our LS has a policy and stipulation, with Osode and Noble’s Tunic, it is the linkshell’s. This item is not ex/rare and can be sold. Anyone who wanted to be in line for any of these items have agreed to this. It is very clear on our forums about the rule, no loophole, no gray areas, no what if’s and no way around it. There is no fine print. Either you agree or you do not. But we expect you to be honorable and not be a thief. We expect someone to uphold their word.
Rokugen, the samurai, has agreed to this a while back. In fact, he was one of the ones who were very strong on wanting to enforce it with our whms and noble’s tunic. We never have had a problem with untrustworthiness or theft as far as this goes in the past. All members have been honourable….except Rokugen. Because of his thieving actions, we will now have to change things.
He has stated on teamspeak conversation and its recorded, I will upload if need be, “***** my friends I want my baby!â€
Also many fraps have been taken of him saying that basically if he gave up the Osode that his “friends†in new LS will think (in summary) he is weak and being a pushover .
This is not about weakness. This is not about anything else except Rokugen made an agreement- written agreement- and now he is going back on his word and stealing from the place it has always belonged to. In fact, the action he has taken has shown weakness. To do the right thing actually takes courage and honor.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/godivafilm/rok3.jpg
The link up above I did edit out tells from other people- I did leave first letter visible so u will know that I did not edit Rokugen’s tells. This is a good illustration of what is going on and the attitude portrayed.
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He agreed to it knowingly.
He admitted on Monday and Tuesday on teamspeak (and its recorded) that he knows its wrong.
He admitted that it would be wrong if he walked off with it.
But he did this anyway.
He does not care that it is actually worse than Bobbyjai.
Bobbyjai did what he did to a stranger.
Rokugen did what he did to people he has known for a long time.
This agreement is not based on anything of favortism, nepotism, or anything except the agreement itself. It became in place for a reason and was voted on. The people and person in question agreed to this.
It’s very cut and dry, no ambiguous terms, gray area or negotiation.
This is not about selfishness in the part of Vindicated.
It has always and will always be a Vindicated item. He knows this and knew since day one.
We are simply trying to get our item back.
Rokugen, I know you will read this and I hope you do. You know full well what we talked about, and you know everything you stated. You said yourself it was wrong. You also stated that if someone else, a friend of yours, for example, got an item, and you were still in LS and he wanted to walk off with it—what would you say? You said- NO.
So right there in its entirety shows that it is wrong and you think and said its wrong….unless its you.
We want this over.
Do you want this to continue??
Just hand over the LS Osode, call it a day, and get it with you new LS.
Have faith in them to do that for you since it is such a big drama.
This item is a LS item. It never said Rokugen on it. (metaphor)
Do the right thing. Why thieve from people who once trusted you?
Comments on this situation on VnD forums are at
http://shahlaffxi.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=GuestBoard&num=1115174646&action=display&start=0
If need be, there are more SS and also voice confession from Rokugen himself saying that it is wrong if he would leave and take it.
It is a damn shame that it has to come to all forums in order to get any sign of justification of wrongdoing. People should know right and wrong and uphold their word. Simple agreement. No loopholes…..except the part of Rokugen not holding to his word and taking from Vindicated.
Shahla
Vindicated