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#27 May 14 2005 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow what a feakin soap opera.

Rokugen your doin the right thing, being the bigger person about the whole issue. I personally would have been compelled to keep the osode, but what i would have done is irrelevant. My only real gripe is how poorly Shahla handled this situation. A leader of a LS has to conduct themselves with dignity and seek a resolution within his/her own ls. Draging an issue out into public forums like this has been is petty.

Oh well, headache over, i peronally would like to wish the best to both parties.
#28 May 14 2005 at 11:46 AM Rating: Default
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I really don't get where you all are coming from with this...

FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS THIS ISSUE WAS ON NON-PUBLIC FORUMS. IT WENT NOWHERE!

Then, this issue comes out on public forums, a few days later, there is a resolution. Seems to have worked to me.
#29 May 14 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I really don't get where you all are coming from with this...

FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS THIS ISSUE WAS ON NON-PUBLIC FORUMS. IT WENT NOWHERE!

Then, this issue comes out on public forums, a few days later, there is a resolution. Seems to have worked to me.


True, but its the "principle" of the thing. LOL, I mean let's say there's a bully picking with you at school. You can try to:

1) Talk to the bully to see WTF is his/her problem.

2) Tell bully lets settle this after school behind the gym; just the two of ya.

3) Blow up the whole friggin school to get rid of the bully.

While 1) and 2) would be better choices, it seems that YOU would rather go with 3). Include EVERYBODY in the problem. But hell, "there is a resolution. Seems it might work for you..."

Its not just GETTING a resolution, its HOW you get a resolution. Kinda like that Osode. I guess if someone wanted an Osode bad enough they could try to steal one from their LS or something. I mean, "it's a resolution, perhaps it will work for them."
#30 May 14 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
Well, to me I find it funny for someone who cares so little about this situation, and who is sick of this situation to continually bump this thread and continue to attempt flames. Barch. I dunno wtf your deal is but you really need to grow up.

And as for your 3rd option it was more like making an announcement on the scholl PA that this kid is a bully and we're sick of him, rather than your overly dramatic blow up the whole school. Bullies tend to single people out as I'm sure you know being picked on your entire life, so if the whole school was informed this guy was a bully then he wouldn't be able to do pick on people.

Anyway I've stated my views on the whole situation on other forums so am not gonna waste my time with doing so here. Just will be glad when these ignorant posts fall off the boards.
#31 May 14 2005 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Eagle, did you consider that maybe it wasn't posting on every board that got Rokugen to come around, but simply allowing time to pass? Think about the last time you got into a heated disagreement with a friend.

Were you more likely to concede:
a) immediately after they attacked you or
b) after enough time had passed for you get your head on straight and make a more rational decision?

However, let's assume that this problem did get resolved through posting on scores of different boards and in many different languages. Is this the action that you want others to perform should such a problem occur? And how about people with other problems, should this be their manner of recourse as well?

Regardless, I agree. The issue has been resolved; time to let it be. You don't have to forgive, but for now let's try to forget.
#32 May 14 2005 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, to me I find it funny for someone who cares so little about this situation, and who is sick of this situation to continually bump this thread and continue to attempt flames. Barch. I dunno wtf your deal is but you really need to grow up.

And as for your 3rd option it was more like making an announcement on the scholl PA that this kid is a bully and we're sick of him, rather than your overly dramatic blow up the whole school. Bullies tend to single people out as I'm sure you know being picked on your entire life, so if the whole school was informed this guy was a bully then he wouldn't be able to do pick on people.

Anyway I've stated my views on the whole situation on other forums so am not gonna waste my time with doing so here. Just will be glad when these ignorant posts fall off the boards.



No, it was more like making an announcement that this person was a bully, potentially had a bomb, and should be killed on sight. Then running to another school and telling them the same thing. Then another....


...and then running to Japan with a bad interperator and starting the process anew.

Edited, Sat May 14 18:10:40 2005 by SophusTehNewb
#33 May 14 2005 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Eagle, did you consider that maybe it wasn't posting on every board that got Rokugen to come around, but simply allowing time to pass? Think about the last time you got into a heated disagreement with a friend.

Were you more likely to concede:
a) immediately after they attacked you or
b) after enough time had passed for you get your head on straight and make a more rational decision?

However, let's assume that this problem did get resolved through posting on scores of different boards and in many different languages. Is this the action that you want others to perform should such a problem occur? And how about people with other problems, should this be their manner of recourse as well?

Regardless, I agree. The issue has been resolved; time to let it be. You don't have to forgive, but for now let's try to forget.


It's certainly possible that it was the additonal time that helped this. Rokugen and I had a little chat earlier today and he explained things further to me. And while I'm not going to completely jump into his boat, I do understand where he was coming from more than I had. But it's also very possible that the reaction from people outside of the LS to this situation was something that caused such an issue to be resolved quicker. I suppose we do not know.

I rarely concede and give in to someone. If I do, I'm being very sincere and I know I made a mistake, my ex-fiancee will attest to this, I actually have a quote of her saying so somewhere =P But this isn't about me.

I like to resolve things quickly, an issue like this would have ended quickly had I had the ability to end it. I was in a similar situation with EK, but I just dropped it all and gave it to the LS and left. I thought that such honorable actions would win over other people and make them trust me more, or at least not lose any trust in me that they had.

The biggest criticism I will offer of Shahla's actions was the multi-forum spamming. Like someone had said, this should have been kept on the usual HNM LS flame forums: VNBoards. That was a mistake of hers.
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