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REVENGE ON THE CAMP BOTS!!!111 (a.k.a NM camping day!)Follow

#1 Jun 23 2005 at 2:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hi people. I've been camping a fair amount, and I am sick and tired of NM botters such as Xpy and Takiyan (to name a few...)

So I decided to organise a 30man+ NM camping day where we all get /rng1 subs and go camp an already overcamped NM and uber overcamp them

(LL is the one im looking at) we should then just mark one pop point each and just spam away at Wide Scan till we claim her. If we do this the whole day, the evil botters will get really angry hehe.

About drops, I was thinking about doing a lot system but I dont know if you can lot imbetween alliances... I'm not sure but we'll figure something out.

So people of Shiva demand a date and time and we will camp that NM!!! (please name lower level ones for a greater turn out.)


PS in reply to Sophus' rate down thread, Free RATE UPs for ALL
d(^.^)b

t(''t)" mr I'm going to rate down everyone "


PPS: DOWN WITH TEH BOTTING!!!!!!!1111 11 11 11 111 111 111 one one one eleven one hundred and eleven!
#2 Jun 23 2005 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wow, can people really camp bot LL? I thought it was kinda impossible because of the large spawn area and you could only use bots on mobs like Argus, that pop in a tiny itty bitty room.

I was thinking maybe we could do a mass attack on Ordelle Caves and take control of the Stroper Chyme. That thing never drops anyway so we won't have to deal with the loot, lol. And it's not a NM (even though has a NM-type drop) and pops a lot more often, so people stay interested.

Talking about botting is rather "tabu"ish because even though you know (or think you know) that people are botting, there are few ways of proving it, if any. For example, by fishing a lot, I've noticed some behavior that made me think hmmmm that person is botting. After a while you start to think that everyone around you is a bot until proven otherwise. And I bet that many people I think are bots, in fact are not. So I never call names or say anything, I don't want to **** anyone off, specially with a false accusation. That's not how things work, so let's not call names and accuse people. We may be 100% sure, but, without evidence, we can't prove it. Of course, that sucks.

That doesn't mean you can't poke the people who have inventories full and keep losing tons and tons of black sole for hours. LMAO

Massive NM camping? {Yes, please.}
#3 Jun 23 2005 at 3:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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LL can be botted in numourous ways.

The most popular by serious NM monopolizers/gilsellers are by using a packet sniffer to find encrypted data about when and where a mob will pop.

Then using an auto targetter (which spams tab till "mob with name x" is targetted) they flee voke the mob.

With packet sniffing one can be in the right place at the right time everytime.

I suspect the purpetrators are always present while botting so they are able to parry off the numourous GM calls.

Today I saw LL pop claimed. It wasnt nice

Stroper Chyme sounds good lets wait for a larger turn out first
#4 Jun 23 2005 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
I would be interested in the whole stropher chyme idea, I have a level 75 Paladin I can bring or a level 42 Black Mage.
#5 Jun 23 2005 at 3:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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don't forget a lvl 32 RDM (Chiiru) or 42 WAR (Kimss)
#6 Jun 23 2005 at 4:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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O.O packet sniffing?

Not sure how to post this without making a bot accusation, but... That sounds exactly like the behavior of that mithra in Ordelles who camps the Chyme in one of the rooms. 5 seconds before the pop she flees and hide, and no one can claim it before her. We tried it with 4 people, one in each corner, and after 2 hours no one but her had claimed it!

/sigh
#7 Jun 23 2005 at 5:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am currently organizing people to camp the caves one night a week. I have been watching the "Crt's" in Ordelles for months. I have been able to claim half of the chymes with friends in the small room and connecting tunnels. /targetnpc; /provoke macro is necessary. We were able to do this by spaming this macro and killing unwanted pops. I will be taking a newly formed LS down there to control the bigger rooms soon (1-2 weeks) after I have gathered enough members to make a BIG difference. As far as the drop goes. The rate is less than 5%. Bur if we do get a drop or 2 the profit from AH sale(s) will be split among the campers. Again, this will not be happening in this shell for a couple weeks yet. As far as the gil sellers, make no mistake, they are using packet sniffers that have been modified to map the Chymes and can voke it thru a pack of mobs. A spam voke like the one I mentioned above is the only way to beat this since you can target and voke the unseen pop also. They only have close to a one second advantage but is enough time to get themselves running in the right direction to provoke the mob. If you are interested in joining us in a group effort that can take a day per week to own these caves on our terms please register at http://forsaken.11.forumer.com
You can alaso contact me in game for a pearl.

This is what we are up against:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Cornnholio/upload265785ad.jpg
Please check it.

Edited, Thu Jun 23 18:22:50 2005 by Cornnholio

Edited, Thu Jun 23 18:20:57 2005 by Cornnholio
#8 Jun 23 2005 at 5:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Liking the turn out already!

As stated free rate ups for everyone!

Cornholio can I join your LS? TY


#9 Jun 23 2005 at 5:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just wrote doen your name so I dont forget. :)
#10 Jun 23 2005 at 11:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've seen Xpy camp Lizzy for a while now, I didn't think he was a bot since he examined me on several occasions. He isn't very good at camping LL either, I've beaten him before. If you need help campinh LL ask Url, she must have the record for drops on this server. 18 times last I checked her bazaar notice. O_o
#11 Jun 24 2005 at 8:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Good idea OP. And good luck, id camp but I need to be leveling up >.>

Oh and for second poster, Argus now spawns out in the other room with the Protozoan and scorps in it as well.


Good luck !!!
#12 Jun 24 2005 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Man, I feel naive.

You know, when I saw that Muonika flee and claim the chyme like the wind, of course I said to myself: "damn you gil selling bot". I din't want to come in forums saying that and be flamed, though. I'm also not very informed on how far bots can go. It is just unbelievable what people will do in a VIDEOGAME!!!

I think that, besides the classic "I would like to be better than everybody else in the easiest way possible", the fact that it made people depend on this game to buy their daily bread is just disgusting. And even worse are the people who, instead of having fun in their game while achieving their goals, whatever they may be, decide to get their credit cards and buy FAKE MONEY.

To me, this just reflects what a sick society we live in. The rule is to take advantage of every single little way possible to be better than everyone around you. Who has the cash is the master. People are bought and sold like a flea market, accumulation is the law. FFXI became a mirror of that, the one with the most gil beats them all. And I bet every other game out there where you interact with real people is the same.

I think we can't stop this. The only way to end botting and gil selling and buying would be if an asteroid infected with decency potion fell into our land and infected the whole atmosphere, making all the **** (pardon my french) in human nature disappear. On the other hand, though, we can have a hell of a good time pissing those people off. ^^

Edit: By the way, I want to join the chyme or NM attack =P. For the fun.

Edited, Fri Jun 24 10:54:13 2005 by Camilleclaudel
#13 Jun 24 2005 at 12:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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lol....you guys really want to have some fun? Take some BST along with ya to the caves. Stroper is not a NM so you can charm it. We have all seen gobby trains in Valkrum, Bat trains in Garliage, Crawlers trains in CNest, but have you ever seen a bot/gil seller train in Ordelles? Charm and 2hr Stroper and you can train these guys all over the caves as they desperately and hopelessly try to claim it off ya. Good stuff.

I hate to inform you guys of this, but bots are everywhere. Just like every other online game, there is people that want to do things the easy way by any means possible. Gil Buying and botting are FFXI's version of Gamesharks and Codebreakers (which ruined SOCOM for me). Sad but true.
#14 Jun 24 2005 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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lol....you guys really want to have some fun? Take some BST along with ya to the caves.


GENIUS!!!

Maybe I could sub BST? I'm only level 27. ; ;
#15 Jun 24 2005 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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you could sub it, but then you don't get to 2hr. So you will get a few minutes of fun while the charm lasts, then as soon as it becomes uncharmed, it is public property again. Actually, and this will sound biased I know, but a BST sub is better than a RNG sub for NM camping IMO. You get widescan (albiet smaller, but i think that is a benefit as well, less mobs to scroll down the list) and charm for claiming. Works wonders and if you are in a team. If you guys don't care about the drop, make a train with Stroper with the local mobs and have it get killed...this will really **** the campers off.
#16 Jun 24 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Im up for pissing off some gil sellers when where and how will this happen?
#17 Jun 25 2005 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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waiting for a few more ppl then well find the most convinient time / date to do it then well do it

RAWR for Shiva !!!
#18 Jun 25 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Heh the Mithra in Ordelles caves is fast.. If you notice there are windows when stroper respawns and she has that down pretty good. I sat there for a hour with her and claimed Stroper as much as she did within that time, and it was basiclly luck when he spawned next to me..Nice trick she does though, Flee+Hide, and runs in circles around the whole spawn area. Good luck on Stroper it's probably best to camp next to the other campers for stroper.

Btw if you're camping LL for his horn the drop rate is like 50/50, if you claim Bloodtear it's 100% drop
if you know his ToD I can solo him for you and his drop rate for the shield is pretty damn ****** since I have camped it Numerous times and gave up.
#19 Jun 26 2005 at 6:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Onei you noob! They mean Leaping Lizzy not Lumbering Lambert I think. :p
#20 Jun 27 2005 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Camping Stroper Chyme will be so fun, just wondering.. can a 41 RDM take it? Although it shouldn't be too bad as well be in huge groups and will be able to help each other
#21 Jun 27 2005 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
The CRT's dont bot and teh drop rates are worse then worse so bring a lot thfs if you plan on camping it.
#22 Jun 27 2005 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
ninechars wrote:
The CRT's dont bot and teh drop rates are worse then worse so bring a lot thfs if you plan on camping it.


Nine is proably right about them not botting, he is friends with the gilsellers so he would know. How is that gilseller LS going that you are in btw?
#23 Jun 28 2005 at 6:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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You guys pissing of Gilsellers? Count me in, i'd love to give those bastards atleast one day of ****** income!
#24 Jun 28 2005 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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OK. I have been getting a few of the same questions about the newly formed shell. Here are a few answers.

1. This is not a HNM shell.
2. It is more of an event shell. You are welcomed to wear the shell whenever you please but Campouts in the caves we will try to schedule so most are able to attend.
3. We are not expecting any drops. If we do by chance get one we will Auction and split amongst the members present.
4. We are only camping the Chymes to make the gil sellers work for their money. (Just for the fun of it)

I realize there are many opinions about gil selling and botting. Ordelles is about the lowest level area you may run into these elements. I know of more than a few groups that enjoy camping here for fun. I am only attempting to get these people together so we can have an even bigger impact.

First meeting will be at 2 PM PST at the crag of holla. Hope to see you there.

forsaken.11.forumer.com
#25 Jun 29 2005 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Everyone who is up for this event, grab a pearl off of Cornholio, it will make organising the event a whole lot easier
#26 Jun 30 2005 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I was reading in a new computer gaming magazine (forgot which one), it has an article on gilsellers in MMORPGs. Most of them are located in Asia but when you look at the pics it seems like it was taken at a gaming convention, all these ppl at desks with computers and headphones all playing but instead being paid to farm, craft, camp. They only get paid on average .53 cents a day.

I just found the whole thing amusing. The end quote of the article was funny; "They get paid dirt, but in their land dirt is good."
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