Scammed on ShivaFollow

Ok well you all know people who run casinos in jeuno right? Well I was gambling last night winning alot of money and I put up a bet of 100k. So I roll and win double my money and he D/Ced. I called a GM and they gave me run around crap such as "We will investigate further and take action accordingly". I am really not happy because this money was going towards spells and gear to help aid my party. So I guess I just got screwed for 200k. His name was Pharamirskid. He was running a casino called the crazy taru casino roll 555+ 2x your bet roll 0 3x your bet or roll trips 3x your bet. He also scammed a few others that were there above the AH in lower jeuno.

Well im sorry the guys connection was messed up. He gave me the money so its cool now. Im sorry I posted all these bad things about him hes not such a bad guy after all. XD Pharamirskid Im comming to hit up your casino again! lol

Obviously you didnt read the changes to the ToS! It clearly states now players MUST follow through with any promises they made such as bets. If a player is obligated to pay another player he or she must do so. So before flaming me read the ToS.

Don't listen to a thing Nieko says, he owes ME 500k.

I am so calling a GM...


j/k :)

{Casino's} {No thanks}

You guys are the whores and the Casino owners are the pimps. The Pimps will ***** slap you in the end and kick you off thier corner and there is nothing anyone will do or say to help you. Next thing you know, you are a broke hoe crying yourself to sleep at night, while the pimps just get richer and richer.

I say to you stop being a ***** and maybe the pimps will finally go away.

Well look at this:

1 I didnt get scammed I got my money back and made money not lost it

2 GMs CAN do sh%# because they can check back through chat logs to see what was said and done.

3 If you claimed that malevont owed you 500k and had no proof no duh they wouldnt do nothing

4 For all you people that think ooooo they cant do anything if you get scammmed heh they are dead wrong all it takes is a little evidence and the ToS new rule to put them into GM jail

Yea GMs do nothing. You talk about proof. Over a year ago my account was hacked over 5m in items and i was able to prove who did it yet the person still plays to this day. For you to think that SE or Gms actually care about your welfare is just stupid.

ACCORDING to the new ToC, if someone makes a "promise" to deliver something and they don't deliver, they can get a strike or something against there account. So /slap the stupid GM for not doing anything about it and giving you the macro'd speech.

A promise in a casino's case would be there shout would be rules, if you win, that's technically a promise they are supposed to deliver.

On a side note, as an EX casino, it's all gambling and you can win or lose. Just trading X number of dollars to a random stranger is a gamble in itself. So I guess the main thing is, play at your own risk.

#1 Casinos are a gamble, so dont gamble more then your willing to loose.

#2 Why do people hate casinos so much? Like Proroc, saying to stop gambling so they will go away. I have never been able to figure this out. At first it was their so called *spam* that everyone hated. I guess i can kinda understand that, but after all it is just a few more pieces of text scrolling through your chat box. No worse then /sh for tele, or my favorite comparission battle log. If it is truely that difficult for people to filter out in their mind the casino /sh from the rest of the /sh, i dont know how those people can even exp. I mean there is so much battle log, how can you handle it??? Then it was "There all scammer", so everyone /blisted them, and hated on them. Then it was "You cant win", so everyone /blist them and hated on them.

The best part about it, is that 99% of the people who /blist someone just for being a casino, either have never played, or played once and lost. So i think it is people jealousy that makes them /blist casino's, and hate on them. They are either jelous that they dont have the gil to gamble, or jelous that the casinos make more gil then them. Either way, thats a pretty stupid reason to /blist and hate on people.


#3 You can make gil gambling (please follow #1 above if attempting to ). I am up about 6 mil gil from gambling since the casinos started poping up. I have lost my fair share, but being up 6 mil gil in the past 8-10 months, has helped me significantly gear wise. It has given me the gil to keep lvling cooking, and to be honest i really enjoy a little gambling in my spare time. Why is it that people get so upset about some people haveing fun? So for all those people that think everyone is just giving their gil to the casinos, im here to say your wrong.

#4 Ok, we all know that gambling is a risk. But that still doesnt mean the casino has the right to steal someones gil. So someone gambles, and comes here to tell us that a casino stole from them (i know he gave the gil back, but im makeing a point). And instead of maybe /comfort, or offering some good advice, the people on this forum feel the need to laugh in the OP's face. Tell the OP hes stupid for gambling in the first place, and to hell with the casinos and gamblers anyways. Thats a load of **** guys seriously. If there is a casino scamming people, the entire community needs to know it. Why you ask? BEcause if this person is willing to scam somone at a casino, they will likely carry that mentality into the field. MPKing, Scamming, Stealing things from other people. Not to mention those people who dont see gambling as an offense punishable by death, can also know to stay away from that casino. Are you guys really that mad at casinos? I mean tell me one viable reason, that all casinos should be banned, and /blisted? Ive mentioned the 3 reasons i always hear, and pointed out why i think there BS, but im wondering if someone actually has a viable reason.


I am glad you got your gil, and i hope you learn the lesson, to not gamble more then you are willing to loose. That is an extremly important lesson if you choose to gamble in the future. I'm sorry everyone here felt the need to hang you at the stake for gambling, i dont see it as such a bad thing, and if you enjoy it, by all means keep playing (again never bet more then your willing to loose).

Then again, I know a lot of high level cooks who were mad because for the longest time they were severly undercut and couldn't sell their goods.

Well it's up to you if you want Sole Sushi for 32k, or 40k. But by all means, I'll stop selling cheap and join the crowd and rob you blind if that's what turns you on. :)

I take into consideration the prices of ingredients to determine my price. It's not undercutting, it's smart selling. I still make a profit, without making an enemy sorta speak. Besides, it's the HQ that is the real profit, NQ is just chump change for us cooks. Any cook that says elsewise, farms, harvests, fishes, and gardens there own ingredients.

Your thoughts are incorrect. I |/blist| every casino because I find their spam offensive; there is no jealousy or envy. I think anyone who gambles is deluding themselves. The house always wins. So you are up 6mil? that is nice and I congradulate you on your success. Yet if you think for a moment that your instance is the norm then you are deluding yourself. In gambling there are only two games that the player can have the advantage at and those are Blackjack and Poker. Even then those games take skill to play to the point where you as a player have an advantage. This |/random| casino business is offensive to me because everytime I see them I feel they are saying "you are stupid in the head. come give me money." Don't read anymore into what I just said than what I said because youare just going to get offended. I said that was 'I felt they were saying to me'; that does not mean I think those who gamble with the Casinos are stupid in the head. As I said I believe those who gamble are either nieve or are deluding themselves.

However, like I said. Congradulations on winning 6mil gil on gambling. I just hope that doesn't inspire anyone to gamble who would otherwise not because the odds are they will loose whatever gil they gamble.

Tell that to the guy that just won 6 mil.

Anyway, do I like casinos? Well, not totally. I think I played a total of 4 times. It can be kinda fun and a little alternative to the game. Do I think it's so bad? No. I agree that the spam can be a bit much if there are multiple casinos in town, but so is WHM teleporters, ppl shouting for help, etc. But really, do you think that casinos would be there if they constantly LOST money? Or if no one wanted it? I see ppl asking "/s is there a casino here today?" It has a demand. You may /blist them but the casino owners don't mind, because you aren't one of their customers.