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#1 Sep 18 2005 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
On the Phoenix Server, on 9/11 2005, a player named Klaive made some shouts.

These Shouts conserned the 9/11 tragedy.

These were not good shouts.........

"Happy Terrorist Day!" was spammed in Jueno by this @$$hat.

Other negitve,rude, disgusting remarks were also made about 9/11.

This American, is Celebrating the death of 30 thousand people who died on this day.

He will soon be kicked off or leave Phoenix for his actions.

I will list everyhting he has said below, or you can simply check the Phoenix top 5 Threads on him.

This should not go unnoticed and we should get all the help to have him kicked off our Server for his Remarks that have offended many people.

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Dont know how many of you were on just now, yet there is a person celebrating 9/11... seriously @#%^ing celebating the death of people.

"It did the world some good, people getting killed helps get things accomplished"

This child is completely ignorant, wants to celebrate death of humans as a hoilday.

Person who I am referring to is: Klaive.

Send hatred, blist him whatever... I seriously just had to vent.



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Klaive also celebrated when the pope died. He's a an @#%^ with a @#%^ broke off in it. /blist works fine for me.


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Klaive is on your server. Why is that such a bad thing, you ask? Well, I'll tell you. This @#%^tard hates America and every loyal American citizen, and celebrates September 11th as a great holiday (every year on 9/11 he pulls immature pranks like blowing up people's mailboxes with firecrackers and putting smoke bombs in parked cars). This last 9/11 he /shouted in Jeuno telling everyone to have a happy Terrorist's Day.

We don't need sh*theads like this in FFXI. Let's try to get this ******* banned. I encourage each and every one of you to report him to the GMs. Of course you'll need some kind of proof first, so send him a /tell and try to get him to say something offensive about 9/11 and then report him to a GM. Take some screenshots of the chatlog, too.

He already got sent to jail once for his comment in Jeuno that I mentioned, but weaseled his way out of punishment by saying that Sep. 11 was also Grandparent's Day, and that was the holiday he had been referring to. Of course he was lying out his ***, but the GM bought it and let him go.

Come on Pheonix! Work together and get this *** out of FFXI!


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I /blisted him the morning of the 12th after LS mates told me what he was shouting in Jeuno the previous night. Our /lsmes still has "/blist Klaive. Trust me, just do it" on it. Since that day, I have not seen him on at all so some action may have already been taken


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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genm...&page=0

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1. I don't live in Arkansas, I live in Nevada.

2. I never mentioned Grandparent's Day in game, only in jest on the GameFAQs.com forum.

3. I was suspended until midnight of the 12th and then told I would be released. I asked why I was even jailed. The GM said he didn't know. I wished him a "Happy Belated Terrorist's Day", he thanked me and sent me back to my home point.

4. You seem to make a lot of snap decisions about a person based on their feelings surrounding a single event or aspect of life. I celebrate a certain political holiday that most Americans mourn. Big deal. That doesn't automatically make us enemies, it just shows a difference in opinion.

5. Your attempt to drive me out of Phoenix has, thus far, gone unnoticed. I highly doubt you'll succeed in having me MPKed at all, and if somehow you do manage, I hope you'll take comfort in knowing that by killing me, you've also killed my innocent party members, and are now no better than a terrorist yourself. Awww. :(

6. Get over it. It's only once a year. I don't run around wishing everyone a "Happy Terrorist's Day" on June 15th, you know. Just let it go for one day, and you won't have to hear it again for another year.

I look forward to partying with you all in the future! Night, night! :)

- Klaive
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You are correct that you have not brought it up. But the problem I have is with the nonchalant manner in which you speak of it. And about your unrelated matters, in another thread you speak of your anti-bush linkshell, think about those words. AN ANTI-BUSH LINKSHELL IN A VIDEOGAME. I'm just going to stop talking now, I have no patience for hatefilled people like you.



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Let me start by saying that I do not place these calls often. I have been playing since NA PC release, and made maybe 2-3 GM calls ever.

Ok... so here is the situation from last night, and I have a question.

About 12:30am PST, some jerk in lower jeuno decided he will start wishing everyone a "Happy Terrorists Day" in light of 9/11. I am very offended to begin with, but leave it alone... because while it is sick, he can do what he wants.

After a while, however, he only got worse. He started saying some really bad things, VERY inappropriate, and very offensive to anyone who considered the day a tragedy, even remotely so. His shouts were getting worse and worse about it. He said he was going to continue the happy terrorist things all day, and he intended to be back at 2pm his time to say it again. He said how him and his friends like to celebrate it by getting drunk and blowing things up. Of course this started a shout war between him and many people... I couldn't stand it, so I blisted him and left the zone.

Now, usually I would leave it at that, and always have. This time, however, I thought this *** had gone way over the limit. What he was doing was horrible, unnecessary, and in many ways, just cruel.

I called a GM.

After a while, [GM]Lyndon (I believe his name was) got back to me.

It was obvious, right off the bat, that this guy didn't speak much english. In the little description area, when I made the call, I put:

"Horribly offensive behavior."

The GM says the following, when he contacts me.

"Greetings, Amanojyaku, this is [GM]Lyndon, I understand you wish to report Horribly for harassment?"

So obviously something was wrong...

I said, no, that was not right at all.

I explained what was happening.

He said "When?"

I told him when.

He said "Where?"

I told him where.

He said "Did player say anything you directly?"

I told him no, only general reference in shouts. (When he started, I had sent the guy a tell, so as to not start a shout war, and he shouted about me sending him tells...)

Anyway, I had mentioned things in between, personal feelings about it, why I would consider it to be in bad taste, asking some questions, etc. He didn't answer any of them. In fact, I think he had just macroed me the standard questions.

I asked him some more questions, no answers. The only other thing I got back was the standard closer. "I will follow up if I find evidence, anything else I can do for you today."

I said something else, no response, he just said "Take care."

So... I went about what I was doing, and talked to my party.

After about 5 minutes, I got a tell from the gm, it simply said:

"[GM]Lyndon>> Sweet."

I asked him in tells why he sent that... no reply.
I asked again what he meant by that, no reply.
I waited a while, and asked again, he said:

"[GM]Lyndon>> Why?"

So I tried to explain that I was asking what he meant, why he sent that... AKA, WHY did you send me that tell?

I asked again after like 5 minutes. He sent back:

"[GM]Lyndon>> It is only mean Great Good"

I asked him for clarification on that... after a few minutes, he just said "Goodbye" and was gone.

It was obvious at this point that the gm I had talked to didn't speak english very well. Really, that is fine. At that hour, I guess I can't expect many english speaking GMs to be on.

However... I strongly suspect that he really had no idea what I was reporting, or the nature of it, much less the severity of the situation I was trying to put across to him. It would explain alot about our converstaion, that's for sure.

The guy who had done it was still there, seeking pt all night. He didn't leave.

I just wonder... if there was any way I could have intentionally talked to an english speaking GM? I think the situation was lost on that GM that I spoke to, and he would likely just look at my chat log, and the guys chat log, see if he said anything to me, or about me, or some key words.

I think that just because of the nature of the problem this time, I would have liked to speak to an english speaking GM. I thought about calling back, but decided that it was against my best interests. Not only would it maybe be considered harassment of the GM center, but I had spent enough time on that shouting jerk. Also, I couldn't think of a nice way to ask for an english speaking GM and not sound like a total ***.

I really have no clue what to do in that situation. I don't think the issue was even dealt with, and my complaint probably fell on deaf ears. The GM likely still thought I was reporting harassment. Then, seeing no evidence of it, would dismiss the call. All of the call certainly seemed like he thought I was reporting the player for harassment.

Just don't know what to do about that. I had to be satisfied with blisting the guy, and hope that he didn't really strike a nerve with someone even more closely affected by that situation. That sort of thing doesn't belong in the game, period. That is why I made the rare decision to call a GM. Seems like it did no good, this time, though.

If anyone is interested, Klaive on the phoenix server was the idiot shouting.
I would strongly recommend blisting him if you are ever on phoenix (has already been mentioned on server forum).


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As you can see, this has effected many people, and shouldnt be tolerated.

If Klaive is kicked off our server, you may want to watch for him on yours if he starts a new Account.

-Peace
#2 Sep 18 2005 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good

You should just ignore him instead of making it a personal crusade to punish him. I'm sorry, but this post doesn't belong here. Post it on the main forum if you must.
#3 Sep 18 2005 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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We live in a game world and real life info should be left out! where you live, what you job is(student or other), how you girlfriend left you, 9/11, hurricane Katrina.... all of it is not sutible for this game, I dont mind hearing about gas prices world wide but there shouldn't be much alse said about the real world....

I PLAY TO ESCAPE THE PRESSURE OF ThE REAL WORLD ANd FORGET ALL MY TROUBLES FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE... + HAVE FUN@!
#4 Sep 18 2005 at 10:30 PM Rating: Good
Meara hit it on the head, exactly what I was thinking, it's his own personal crusade, although I was thinking more along the words of "martyr" but that works too.

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This American, is Celebrating the death of 30 thousand people who died on this day.

Right there, that's where the my complaint comes to you from. He's an American, excerising his right to free speech. He's got a right to say whatever he wants, regardless if it's right or wrong, if you agree or not.

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He will soon be kicked off or leave Phoenix for his actions.

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This should not go unnoticed and we should get all the help to have him kicked off our Server for his Remarks that have offended many people.

Square-Enix won't do anything about it, and none of the players have the right to do anything about it. He got sent to a GM Prison already for it, and probably for spamming shouts, and not necessarily the context of them. Unless he continues this, GM's won't act again, since punishment was handed out, they'd just tell you to /blist him.

Take the stick out of your @$$ and deal with it Zanfire. I don't condone his actions, but I don't condone yours either. Especially since we're a different server. You gotta except that people do these kinds of things, and grow up. Be the bigger man and all that.
#5 Sep 19 2005 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
Please keep the trash of your serer to yourself. Thanks.
#6 Sep 19 2005 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
yes everyone who posted is right, i only read not even 1/2 of your post, keep it in your own server buddy and ther reason this game is here to escape the RL situatuion and do what you have to do to this guy, dont bring your personal vendetta here. woop tee doo now he cant play a game any more on Phoenix server
big loss, just keep stuff like this to yourself, what gets me is u took the time to post this on shiva and probably more. just play the damn game
#7 Sep 20 2005 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
I was suspended for 24 hours. That's it.

It's over. He's just upset that nobody else is having a sea cow.
#8 Sep 20 2005 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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People have their own political views.I find it offensive that we have someone with the IQ of jello in the white house. Maybe I can call a gm and get him tossed into jail. This guy said what he feels, oh well. Agree to disagree and move on. From reading your post he never said he was happy that all those people got killed he just felt it help set things into action. Maybe a little mis-guided but his thought maybe were in the right place.

Oh, and no I don't think you should have to keep this to your own server you were trying to inform people of a situation more power to you. I mean let's look at this...

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He's an American, excerising his right to free speech. He's got a right to say whatever he wants, regardless if it's right or wrong, if you agree or not.


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Please keep the trash of your serer to yourself. Thanks.


Let's promote what offenders freedom of speech, but take away the concerned posters freedom.
#9 Sep 21 2005 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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My Buddy Wrip wrote:
Let's promote what offenders freedom of speech, but take away the concerned posters freedom.


Agreed... Very contradicting in its sense...

If America has the right to freedom of speech, then he should be able to post it without problem, since it, indeed, IS HIS RIGHT also...

Read through this for a second day to see all the comments, and Wrip's makes the most sense.. Right on, dude.

~Nieko
#10 Sep 21 2005 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Although poor in taste.. umm well thats it - its poor in taste and SE wont really do much about poor taste. And the mess they would have policing all servers opinions ><. /blist him and keep the drama @ your own <Home Point> This isnt all about a concerned poster its someone voicing their opinion about someone with a differing veiw insisting that the one they are at odds with should be fully censored. Now what happened was crappy to the Nth degree, I agree with that. I agree that he had the right to say it and that dude has the right to spread the gospel as he see's fit, but I also dont care what either said and excercise my right to toss out a big STFU to both.

Edited, Wed Sep 21 17:40:20 2005 by sunkentein
#11 Sep 24 2005 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
You cant lead a one man army, when the whole middle east hates us, Just chill some people are not even worth the amount of space were taking up on FFXI ALLA
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