I have bee searching for an answer tot he question because well it is gonna cost me a lot of gil so I'd rather make an informed choice so here it is
Gear that raises a stat like Evasion in my case does it raise the skill even when the skill is capped? If so what is the difference between +Evasion and +Evasion skill?
Thanks in advance
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I think +eva and +eva skill is the same
like there is counter+ and counterattack+
and yeah your skill goes up with +eva gear when it is capped
like there is counter+ and counterattack+
and yeah your skill goes up with +eva gear when it is capped
This has been debated on in the NIN forums quite a bit, and I don't think there is any real proof on to what evasion skill does vs. evasion.
Supposedly, evasion skill > evasion > AGI, no one knows the exact formula relationship for evasion skill (2AGI = 1 evasion)
I think evasion is just an add on to evasion skill, even if your skill is capped.
As a NIN, I personally focus on AGI. AGI adds evasion, parrying, ranged accuracy, and less chance of taking a critical hit. I find that I parry more with AGI than I do with just evasion equip (drone earrings vs. dodge earrings for example)
The only +evasion skill gear I have is melody earrings, and that's used only with a BRD in the pt. I don't think evasion skill equipment is worth the price, unless you've got money to spare
Supposedly, evasion skill > evasion > AGI, no one knows the exact formula relationship for evasion skill (2AGI = 1 evasion)
I think evasion is just an add on to evasion skill, even if your skill is capped.
As a NIN, I personally focus on AGI. AGI adds evasion, parrying, ranged accuracy, and less chance of taking a critical hit. I find that I parry more with AGI than I do with just evasion equip (drone earrings vs. dodge earrings for example)
The only +evasion skill gear I have is melody earrings, and that's used only with a BRD in the pt. I don't think evasion skill equipment is worth the price, unless you've got money to spare
I think Evasion Skill gear is better than Evasion gear. Evasion Skill gear makes it almost like you have the Evasion Skill of the next level. While Evasion gear just raises your evasion. That makes sense? Thought not. ><
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I think Evasion Skill gear is better than Evasion gear.
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This easy!
Evasion skill works in conjunction with 2 base stats AGI and VIT, as your evasion skill raises you defence will raise and your chance to evade will raise as well.
Normal evasion from gear increases can up chance to evade more couse it's not a skill, but it won't up your Defence like evasion skill.(There is no clear measurment to compare amount of evasion vrs evasion skill)&(Just like there is no clear measurment to compare Magic accuracy vrs enfeebling skill)
EXAMPLE: The more you sword skill couse up the more chance you have to hit the mob and the more your attack gose up, weapons skills work in conjuction with STR and DEX. When using melee accuracy from gear your chance to hit can be more than it would be from base stats/DEX and your skill alone(Couse accuracy is the end result of you DEX and skill working in conjunction).
EXPLANATION: STR alone will up the damage curve alowing you to hit more damage. Attack will up the damage to the top of the possible damage curve that the STR allows. The more STR you have the more natural attack you'll get from this base stats and the more skill you have in your weapon the more attack you will get.
Base stats and skills work in conjunction with each other too add up the amount of acccuracy, chance to evade, chance to block with shield, chance to parry and other.. when apply normal accuracy and evasion your skipping directly to the end product of you base stats and skills, but measurment of say...say evasion skill and evasion from gear is still very fogy it's best to go with a large round number for evasion gear like evasion+10 but for evasion skill even 2 points can help alout..
It's easy, but tricky
Holder Paltek
Evasion skill works in conjunction with 2 base stats AGI and VIT, as your evasion skill raises you defence will raise and your chance to evade will raise as well.
Normal evasion from gear increases can up chance to evade more couse it's not a skill, but it won't up your Defence like evasion skill.(There is no clear measurment to compare amount of evasion vrs evasion skill)&(Just like there is no clear measurment to compare Magic accuracy vrs enfeebling skill)
EXAMPLE: The more you sword skill couse up the more chance you have to hit the mob and the more your attack gose up, weapons skills work in conjuction with STR and DEX. When using melee accuracy from gear your chance to hit can be more than it would be from base stats/DEX and your skill alone(Couse accuracy is the end result of you DEX and skill working in conjunction).
EXPLANATION: STR alone will up the damage curve alowing you to hit more damage. Attack will up the damage to the top of the possible damage curve that the STR allows. The more STR you have the more natural attack you'll get from this base stats and the more skill you have in your weapon the more attack you will get.
Base stats and skills work in conjunction with each other too add up the amount of acccuracy, chance to evade, chance to block with shield, chance to parry and other.. when apply normal accuracy and evasion your skipping directly to the end product of you base stats and skills, but measurment of say...say evasion skill and evasion from gear is still very fogy it's best to go with a large round number for evasion gear like evasion+10 but for evasion skill even 2 points can help alout..
It's easy, but tricky
Holder Paltek
Errr it matters...
If you want to evade melee attacks as a NIN.. AGI, evasion and evasion skill is the way to go..
-AGI is your base stat, it will help out evasion skill by upping your frequncy of evading, but it won't up your skill!(AGI should be the last important stat to upgrade for evading couse it also helps with ranged accuracy<Devided focus> at lv.75!)
-Evasion skill is a solid way to go, but this needs to work with your AGI to be noticable(Focus of skill is devided into chance to evade and defence). Note: if you up your evasion skill it is wise to up you AGI along with it.
-Evasion(from gear) can become very noticeable in large round numbers like 10+, but if in say evasion+3 you evasion skill can dominate.
CONCLUSION: This is the tricky party, to become good at evading you'll want a large amount of evasion backed up by AGILITY and enforced by evasion skill to break your limit of evading. This is hard to explain but if you look closly at how peices of armor can work together you might notice it..
Hope that helped.
If you want to evade melee attacks as a NIN.. AGI, evasion and evasion skill is the way to go..
-AGI is your base stat, it will help out evasion skill by upping your frequncy of evading, but it won't up your skill!(AGI should be the last important stat to upgrade for evading couse it also helps with ranged accuracy<Devided focus> at lv.75!)
-Evasion skill is a solid way to go, but this needs to work with your AGI to be noticable(Focus of skill is devided into chance to evade and defence). Note: if you up your evasion skill it is wise to up you AGI along with it.
-Evasion(from gear) can become very noticeable in large round numbers like 10+, but if in say evasion+3 you evasion skill can dominate.
CONCLUSION: This is the tricky party, to become good at evading you'll want a large amount of evasion backed up by AGILITY and enforced by evasion skill to break your limit of evading. This is hard to explain but if you look closly at how peices of armor can work together you might notice it..
Hope that helped.
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like there is counter+ and counterattack+
That's just a typo. Some gear would have Counterattack, others would have Counter. About a year ago, during some update or another it was changed, now they all so Counter. Alla just needs to update.
As for Evasion, I think it's all one big lump stat. You take you're Evasion from combat skills, add/subract anything from gear, take your Agi/2, and there you have your overall evasion.
It's personally the way I've always thought of it, and since I'm not a career thief or ninja, I never have to worry about it, so it works for me.
+ EVA skill, raises your current skill lvl of EVA (eg, your EVA is capped at lvl 250, and you get +5 EVA skill, it is now 255).
+ Eva gives you an EVA bonus (you wont necessarily get an entire EVA skill, with +1 EVA. It is probably a percentage, though its not been completly proven (as far as i know)
+ Eva gives you an EVA bonus (you wont necessarily get an entire EVA skill, with +1 EVA. It is probably a percentage, though its not been completly proven (as far as i know)
Anyone who said Evasion Skill and Evasion are the same are WRONG. If they were the same, then they'd be named the same. Evasion Skill is better than Evasion as it raises your skill level, in other words.. if you're level 55 with evasion skill gear, you would have the evasion of a level 56, or a 57, etc. Why do you think people put their merits in say.. "Axe Skill" or "Hand to Hand Skill" at level 75? It increases the maximum skill level so they can fight like a level 76, 77, etc..
Evasion itself adds chance to evade an attack (by a percent or a number, doesn't effect skill).
Agility adds into Evasion (not evasion SKILL), ranged attack and parring. Personally, I think a good mix of agi, eva and eva skill is the best, but play your character how you want.
DD Ninjas are the best anyways! Go Nin/Blm (Good ol' Shaady)
Evasion itself adds chance to evade an attack (by a percent or a number, doesn't effect skill).
Agility adds into Evasion (not evasion SKILL), ranged attack and parring. Personally, I think a good mix of agi, eva and eva skill is the best, but play your character how you want.
DD Ninjas are the best anyways! Go Nin/Blm (Good ol' Shaady)
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