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#27 Nov 02 2005 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
Hellkid you still troll forums of a game you do not even play anymore.

ps: I get paid when im posting on here.

pss: I workout everynight before I go to sleep.

metal note: why am I responding to Hellkid?
#28 Nov 02 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent


Edited, Wed Nov 2 16:46:56 2005 by Ayaz
#29REDACTED, Posted: Nov 02 2005 at 4:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A. I PLAY ON VALEFOR SO I DO PLAY GAME.(eventhough, I just have fishing bot, and I sell gil for beer money) I still play =)Did I post about the game? no. is there any posts on here ever about the game? no. Is this more like a soap opera forum where people just talk ****? yes. So in fact, you my friend are very wrong. I wish I knew you or knew where you live....you talk so tough, you're scurring me...
#30 Nov 02 2005 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
there are a lot of dumb people on these boards apparently. hes posting this because this bob guy went nuts over nothing and posted a bunch of terrible things on his linkshell forums. i dont see how so many people are having such a hard time understanding this. its not like kramer said "OMFG HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT MY WIFE IN-GAME!! IM GOING TO ALLA ABOUT THIS!!11111!" hes just trying to inform everyone that there is a complete jackass in our midst and i for one applaud him for letting us know. so read his complaint for what it is and not what you want it to be you ******* drama starters =(


P.S wtf.....i logged in using 1 less z on my name than usual and it worked.... i apparently have a 2nd account on here. woot for me!!111

Edited, Wed Nov 2 16:55:40 2005 by Ayaz
#31 Nov 02 2005 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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um dont worry about me, i know how to read...

so what if he went nuts? it could easily be blocked assuming he is a mod/admin on his own forums


and how can one incident forever label a person as an *******? this just might have been a bad day for him or whatever (and no, i do not feel his actions were "correct"). i do agree with the first reply, that this should have been taken up with him privately instead of taken public
#32 Nov 02 2005 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
a bad day is snapping on someone in game perhaps. but to actually take the time to register on a website and take even more time to post multiple things...... well thats just being a ********* its all about the premeditation
#33 Nov 02 2005 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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there are a lot of dumb people on these boards apparently....hes just trying to inform everyone that there is a complete jackass in our midst and i for one applaud him for letting us know.


Ayaz, you cut in front of hundreds of people who had been waiting in line for hours when the NPC quest first came out. One of those people was my gf. Should I have created a thread "inform[ing] everyone that there is a complete jackass in our midst?"

[/sarcasm]

Edited, Wed Nov 2 18:02:01 2005 by SophusTehNewb
#34 Nov 02 2005 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
LOL go back a bit in the threads homie. that thread DOES exist. got quite a lot of attention for a couple of days too. dont remember who started it exactly but it was very similar to this one. i dont blame anyone for starting that thread nor do i think it was a bad idea. i practice what i preach, even if it means bad things for me =(
#35 Nov 02 2005 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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Ah touche. But to be fair, I don't believe it was specifically an anti-ayaz thread. I could be wrong, but I thought the thread was centered around people who broke the player-defined "rules of etiquite" for the event. The difference here is that the thread is against one individual player, rather than the actions of a set of players (ie line-skippers).
#36 Nov 02 2005 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
yeah it started out as an anti-******** thread but i think i was the only one who responded.... and i got ****** mobbbbbbbed lol. ah the good old days....... i think im mellowing out in my old age though XD. ive been much nicer lately.... damn me =(
#37 Nov 02 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Will do Dalm, hmm you take on Dra 1 vs 1? Good luck, you going as mnk/nin?


I already went 1 vs 1 against him and went /sam. When I went up against him I instantly Killed him with Asuran fist. :) But he was a pain kept binding and sleeping me.


You guys are about to start some Ls Gang wars over this. Doing drive bies in jeuno. lol
#38 Nov 02 2005 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
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/sigh please note it is not the general belief of DVS3 that Kramer hates us blah blah blah. Please don't make blanket statements :p

If someone in wasp could direct me to the comment that was posted on your site it would be good in evaluating the situation from our end. Or /tell me in game.
#39 Nov 02 2005 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
As co-founder and leader of DVS and DVSIII let me say a few things, so anyone who cares (which given the overwhelming brevity of this situation should be no one) can get my views on it straight form the source. One of the things I believe strongly in is being a positive member of the FFXI community. That intails treating others with respect, helping others when you can and when appropriate, and hopefully helping everyone around me become better players and better people. I bear no ill will toward Kramer, WASP, or any other LS in the game. When we come in contact with them I do my best to keep things civil. But every large family has all types of people, and some will be outspoken and quick on the trigger.

Do i agree with what Bob did? No. Would I have done things differently? Yes. Should you ever condemn an entire group of people over the actions of one? Of course not. I'm not sure if his outburst was in any way a product what happened to him when he was in WASP, the result of general friction some of our members feel toward each other, or something personal between the two of you. Its really not my business either. I dont pretend to micro-manage every single person who wears our colors. I dont base any decisions on something that happens in tells. And im frankly not sure something happening on a third-party forum, incuding yours and this one, is within my juristiction. I can ask people to stop and play nice, sure, but if i trolled the net looking for people mouthing off at one another and slapping them on the wrist i would never be able to play myself.

If anyone is bothered by this in the Shiva community feel free to contact me in-game at Miriel or possibly as Toonces, as any response here i will likely not read. I read this maybe once a month, and find it to be mostly idle gossip and personal bashing.

While Im here, thank you to everyone who said nice things about me in a previous thread, but i doubt there is any leader of a large LS who even pretends to do it alone. Any success or praise i may receive as the shmuck who spent 8k on a shell many moons ago is doubly deserved to those friends who have helped me along the way. How about someone start a thread about the best leaders on Shiva who arent LS leaders, as they are the ones who deserve the credit, not us figureheads. Ill start the list with Jae.
#40 Nov 03 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I meant to send you a PM on this Kramer, but after multiple refreshes Alla wouldn't load that page. And somehow, it will load this respond page. Go figure.

Anyway, this might not be as bad as Bob, but this is from one of your own members Kramer.

The intro:
I was on a Zm6 run for some friends and see a few people early on in Quicksand caves. One of their members was dead. My party raises said dead person. At that time, I got this message in /say:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/SirEaglestrike/FFXI/img_0062.png

After we keep going, he decided to /shout: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/SirEaglestrike/FFXI/img_0063.png

I responded there because it was the first thing I saw. I only saw the /say when going through my chat logs again. Stiffler and I have had some issues in the past, but I've never attacked him in such a personal manner, in fact I rarely do that for anyone. But this is typical for Stiffler to do around me. I have more screenshots from a long time ago, but this is all I've taken down since he's been in your LS Kramer. You may deal with this as you wish. I was just going to let you know about it.

Sorry about posting this on the public forum, PM's didn't work -.-
#41REDACTED, Posted: Nov 03 2005 at 5:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well LOH, everything that guy said is true..so what's the problem?
#42 Nov 03 2005 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
I am sorry to hear that he says things like this. It will be dealt with and not go overlooked.
#43 Nov 03 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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thx mir :) ^_^
#44 Nov 03 2005 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Proroc wrote:
...I will tell you this much Bob, come say that to me in real life and you will be drinking meals through a straw the rest of you life.


This coming from the same guy who filters swear words with Cherry Cheescake. hahahah
#45 Nov 03 2005 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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This coming from the same guy who filters swear words with Cherry Cheescake. hahahah



Whats wrong with that? I thought it was rather creative, and frankly the only interesting thing about this entire thread.

#46 Nov 03 2005 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
ScarShiva wrote:


I left this blank because I do not care what Scar wrote.

All these people that flame me for whatever reasons (jealousy, insecurity, trying to get a rise out of me, I pissed them off at some point in time and now they want revenge, etc..) I am done with you.

I play this game to have fun, not to defend myself all the time over random flamers. This game is suppoed to be an escape from everyday life. A time to relax and enjoy spending time with friends I have made online.

I am sorry Shiva that I have retailated to every flame post aimed at me or posted in retaliation on here to people who have flamed me in this game. It will end here and now.

People can flame me however they want, but I will just ignore it. I do this for the benefit of my LS and for the benefit of the readers on this forum. Please do not view it when I do not reply to these flames as they are true, I am scared or feel threatened by this person, or that I do not want to defend myself or my LS when these things arise.

I will sit back and once again have fun in this game and all those that feel drama is a must can say whatever they like for it will go in one ear and out the other. If people decide they want to believe what these people come on and say, well then so be it, you are proably not someone I want in my LS or someone I would want to associate with anyways.

in closing Smiley: tongue
#47 Nov 03 2005 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
Edit: double post.

Edited, Thu Nov 3 13:12:48 2005 by Proroc
#48 Nov 03 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
ya know.... i kinda like that attitude.... not responding to anything directed at you will cut down on the drama bombs for sure. i think i might have to try that.

EDIT wtfs my rating went down from 3 yesterday to 2.13 today... someone doesnt like me much =( lols

Edited, Thu Nov 3 13:21:18 2005 by Ayaz
#49 Nov 03 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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Join the club, i got Karma nuked too it looked like. Ohh well i voice my Opinion and i guess that happend.

Kramer I meant no offence, and i had not realized he posted on your boards dissing your Wife, for that I appologise.

And I'l say i got nothing aginst an LS on this Game. seeing as Fem is a good friend of mine and in a rival HNM/SKY LS and i'd do anything to help her out.
#50 Nov 03 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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I am sorry Shiva that I have retailated to every flame post aimed at me or posted in retaliation on here to people who have flamed me in this game. It will end here and now.


Spoken like a true leader
#51 Nov 03 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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Ragnarzero wrote:
Join the club, i got Karma nuked too it looked like. Ohh well i voice my Opinion and i guess that happend.

Kramer I meant no offence, and i had not realized he posted on your boards dissing your Wife, for that I appologise.

And I'l say i got nothing aginst an LS on this Game. seeing as Fem is a good friend of mine and in a rival HNM/SKY LS and i'd do anything to help her out.


Everyone is free to speak their mind Ragnarzero that's what makes our country great! Thanks for the comment /smile! You've been a good friend!
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