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#27 Nov 15 2005 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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To me, that's more likely to start a flame thread than a silly sock puppet who started a thread that no one cares to agree with.

[/end Ace bashing] :p


O.o !!

Does that mean the papa*socks*zzi is following us?
#28 Nov 15 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
ya know it seems that more often than not, a thread designed specifically to get people pissed off at the poster is making more arguments between us "normal" posters than anything else. wouldn't we be better off just ignoring these jerkoffs?
#29 Nov 15 2005 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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It would be easier, yes, but not NEARLY as much fun :D
#30 Nov 15 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
haha alrighty i think i see your point XD
#31 Nov 15 2005 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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It would be easier, yes, but not NEARLY as much fun :D


Yes yes, me and sophus havent had a discussion recently.

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Rating someone who doesnt even have the nuts to post who they really are up, especially when they are blatently inticing a flame war, is immediate grounds for being attacked. No one has to agree wiht me, but I will hold my ground on this
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Attempt? Yes. Succeeded attempt? Nope.

You know how many "HNM" LS are out there that no one knows about? Or worse, do you know how many there are that no one *cares* about? The fact that this guy knows who AND what Wasp is shows you that 1) Wasp is getting a name for itself and 2) This guy is scared/jealous of it. Publicity is good, sometimes even if it's negative.



ITs not the content (I dont know if Wasp is a good LS or not), its the principle that gets me. Being a Veteran poster here, I suppose i get tired of this type of crap easier then others, and might act out of sorts (though im not sure i did, just a theory). Bad publicity is not always good, but your right it was pouiblicity.

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Now I could be wrong, but I thought the guy only inferred to Wasp being the worst HNMLS? I have yet to see him say anything else. And considering that no one here has yet to agree with him, I'd say it was a horribly failed attempt at attacking Wasp. Therefore the only flames I see are coming from you ;)


Yes, I flamed him/her for being too checken **** to post who they were. Again the content of the post doesnt matter. If the post was "Worst player on shiva" and the 3 choices were

Acepod
Acepod
Acepod

I still wouldnt be upset by the content, and I would have done the exact same thing as I did here. Call the person out for being to scared to show face. In RL, someone says crap to me, i can kick their face in, but in a game, we have to hold a higher lvl of accountability. The community as a whole "Should" stand up for this accountability. Even if i hated Wasp, I would still have said the same thing.




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Rateings are good for one thing. Getting rid of garbage. Had the OP been rated appropriatly, thgis post would be sub default, and we (or I if you wish) wouldnt have to see it. Everyone is entitles to their opinion, but blatent annonymous flameing is obnoxious.

I dont know why you werent on the list. I would assume it goes by a time frame, and maybe you were out of it?

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Send a sock to sub-default, they start another sock. Allow a sock to remain above sub-default, they keep talking. The more they talk, the easier it is to track them. Case in point (no offense intended), is Jae. Had he said what his piece and left, no one would have found that it was *his* sock going after Kramer.


Thats an interesting view on it. I suppose your idea there has some potential, but this sick isnt talking, and IMHO should go away (which the community as a whole obviously doesnt agree with me since the socks rateing is still the same).




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Maybe, but i would bet Proroc hit the nail on the head with the sock account thing. And anyone worth anything, would have posted that they agree without hiding behind annomity (i cant decide what form of annonymous should be used here ><).

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So what you're saying is that you're mad at the guy's sock for trying to start a flame thread...but you're even more mad at people who rated him up? Let's take a look at this...


Not exactly, but im looking at next paragraph one sec...

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Yes, maybe they rated him up because they agreed with him. Or, maybe they rated him up because other people were "anonymously" rating him down? But for whatever reason they did it, one thing certain: had they posted their point of view--no matter how valid--they would have been attacked on a personal level.


This is kind of my point. I hold the allakhazam shiva server community to a very high standard. We have extinguished socks, trolls, we have outed the cheaters, and made the worst of the worst players leave. Even if you agree with the OP, it's a shame the way the OP didnt tell us who he/she is/was. IMHO this community should stand against those hiding behind a computer screen, and not allow them to make empty threats/opinions. Its useless. But thats just my opinion, and no one else has to agree.



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It wouldn't be just you attacking them either. It would potentially by every member of Wasp that comes on here, their friends, and even some non-members. And all of that because they chose to agree with a "sock" who inferred something bad about Wasp.

To me, that's more likely to start a flame thread than a silly sock puppet who started a thread that no one cares to agree with.


I guess thats just me. If i thought Wasp was the worst HNMLS, i would come right out and say it (though i certainly wouldnt start a thread about it, as that childish and unneccesary).
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Please son, if thats your idea of bashing me, you better get some new material ;P

#32 Nov 15 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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Please son, if thats your idea of bashing me, you better get some new material ;P


Well I was going to end it: "And you're mother is a *****". Guess I should learn not to second-guess myself.

Anywhoo, don't get all worked up. Had you not replied, chances are no one would have either. Smart players know not to agree with something just because "someone says so." And if someone actually believes something because "someone told me that..." then is their opinion really all that valuable?

And I do mean it. Your mother really is a *****.

Edited, Tue Nov 15 14:11:52 2005 by SophusTehNewb
#33 Nov 15 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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Well I was going to end it: "And you're mother is a *****". Guess I should learn not to second-guess myself.

Anywhoo, don't get all worked up. Had you not replied, chances are no one would have either. Smart players know not to agree with something just because "someone says so." And if someone actually believes something because "someone told me that..." then is their opinion really all that valuable?

And I do mean it. Your mother really is a *****.


Please refer to the "come on already..... " post for a correction.

#34 Nov 15 2005 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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Hey ace, I'm gonna rate you up now. Just telling you ahead of time so that I don't get flamed for doing it anonymously. ;)
#35 Nov 15 2005 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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You know how many "HNM" LS are out there that no one knows about? Or worse, do you know how many there are that no one *cares* about? The fact that this guy knows who AND what Wasp is shows you that 1) Wasp is getting a name for itself and 2) This guy is scared/jealous of it. Publicity is good, sometimes even if it's negative.


Hehe, worked for Madonna. ^w^

I love it when Acepod and Sophus are at each others throats. Kinda like watching in old school Bulls vs. Lakers game. Acepod analyzes and Sophus has the quick yet truthful wit.

Pass me da popcorn, the soaps are on. ^^
#36 Nov 15 2005 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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Hey now, that's not fair. There are PLENTY of other people here that are good at arguing.
















We just happen to be the only two that believe in complete sentances and punctuation.
#37 Nov 15 2005 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
SophusTehNewb wrote:
Hey now, that's not fair. There are PLENTY of other people here that are good at arguing.
















We just happen to be the only two that believe in completesentances and punctuation.


I guess you do not believe in spelling though?

Edited, Tue Nov 15 16:53:56 2005 by Proroc
#38 Nov 15 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I never once said spelling :D
#39 Nov 15 2005 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
haha. you. got. berned.
yay now i fit right in with most of the other posters here!!. whoops i think i just blew my cover by using a full sentence. {Run away!}

PS: as long as im not drunk im fairly good at arguing points myself.... but then again im almost always drunk so i guess it doesnt really matter =\

Edited, Tue Nov 15 18:47:10 2005 by Ayazz
#40 Nov 15 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent

No one has yet defined an HNM linkshell.

I keep saying my linkshell isn't an HNM linkshell because we don't camp HNMs very often and usually only when one of our members need something. And yet we get lumped into the same category as people who camp HNMs every single day and make their gil off this and have a calling to camp HNMs. We also get lumped in with linkshells who's biggest kill are the rams.

Give us a good definition of an HNM linkshell then we can decide whether or not WASP is any good.
#41 Nov 15 2005 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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No one has yet defined an HNM linkshell.

I keep saying my linkshell isn't an HNM linkshell because we don't camp HNMs very often and usually only when one of our members need something. And yet we get lumped into the same category as people who camp HNMs every single day and make their gil off this and have a calling to camp HNMs. We also get lumped in with linkshells who's biggest kill are the rams.

Give us a good definition of an HNM linkshell then we can decide whether or not WASP is any good.



Why do you need a definition? This thread is from someone who is bashing an LS. It isn't about Wasp being on trial to see "if they are any good".

You know as well as others that if you have a LS with predominately high lvls (+70 and over), that you are going to get lumped into that dept. Nowadays everyone and their grandma is making HNMLSs. My opinion, it's just another word (or misunderstood as) endgame LS. You can kill gods, camp hard ****, get high lvl gear.

I don't know why the OP is trying to bash Wasp. Maybe Wasp is doing something right. Or maybe he/she's just a hater. I don't think it's about trying to figure if "Wasp is any good," and that's something that you need be not worry about. Obviously, Wasp is doing well for itself.

Someone turn down the temperature in the room.
#42 Nov 15 2005 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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An HNM LS is an LS that teams up to kill HNM's. How often doesn't matter.

My LS is an "HNM LS" but we haven't even come to the 3 king camps (yet).
#43 Nov 15 2005 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent

My point is really that you can't say anyone is a good HNM linkshell or a bad HNM linkshell because the definition is way too wide to be able to judge it.

Also, I'm convinced that the original poster is a member of WASP and trying to drum up publicity.
#44 Nov 15 2005 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, I'm convinced that the original poster is a member of WASP and trying to drum up publicity.


Holy hell, that would be too obvious. Or would it o.0

Lol


This thread is actually kinda interesting now. Woot

#45 Nov 16 2005 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I think HoCD is the worst Linkshell on the server, they have accepted and put up with me for 10 months now...bastards. XD

-Calvern
#46 Nov 16 2005 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
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That would be a good idea, but to talk bad about your LS doesn't make it look good.
Kinda like saying "My girlfriend is SO fat." No one gives a crap. If you say, "My girlfriend has the DEEPEST throat," well, ppl might be interested then.

I thought it was the same guy dissing everyone's LS. Or maybe someone that was in Wasp that isn't anymore. Time to get Matlock on this case. Or Columbo.
#47 Nov 16 2005 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
Meara the Mundane wrote:

My point is really that you can't say anyone is a good HNM linkshell or a bad HNM linkshell because the definition is way too wide to be able to judge it.

Also, I'm convinced that the original poster is a member of WASP and trying to drum up publicity.


Sorry Meara, but Wasp does not need any publicity. We have 80 memebrs and are not strongly recruiting anymore. It is quite sad to see another endgame LS leader come on here and make these accusations of my LS.

I think Meara did it. Smiley: tongue

Edited, Wed Nov 16 08:54:02 2005 by Proroc
#48 Nov 16 2005 at 9:02 AM Rating: Decent
Meara the Mundane wrote:

Give us a good definition of an HNM linkshell then we can decide whether or not WASP is any good.


We are the worst HNM LS. We wiped to Bubbly Bernie yesterday.

We were camping him because a member needed the steam clock so that he would have enough gil to buy 1 sneak oil to come to Sky with us this week.

Well I am at the camp spamming Provoke to try to out pull any other people who are camping this Mob.

Then Barchiel walks up and says "dude, you have to trade a quus to the bush."

So he trades the quus and I provoke him. There is now sweat running down my face as I tell Barchiel to {Shadowbind} him so we have time for back up to arrive.

Well Barchiel accidentally hits EES instead of Shadowbind and he misses. The next thing I know BB is hitting me for 1-2pts of damage per hit. I just froze and did not know what to do. He eventually killed me then Barchielw as next to fall.

It was a sad day for Wasp.

ps: Meara I just noticed something. The OP spelled it WASP, none of the members of my shell would call us that, they all know it is Wasp.
#49 Nov 16 2005 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Give us a good definition of an HNM linkshell then we can decide whether or not WASP is any good.


I believe what Meara means is that if Wasp is being *defined* as a HNM linkshell then Wasp would have to exhibit the sorts of activities and events camping or fighting HNM requires resulting in known successes.

Personally for myself, I view most linkshells that call themselves Sky, HNM, endgame, simply, *high level* linkshells with most players at or above level 70 with sky access and on their way to sea. These same people because of high levels are able to also camp and fight HNM if they choose to. Simple as that.

Lastly, I think it's amusing that some whiney person (who is so spineless they can't even state their real name) can create so much speculation about a *linkshell*.









#50 Nov 16 2005 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Then Barchiel walks up and says "dude, you have to trade a quus to the bush."

I was talking about MY bush. >.>
#51 Nov 16 2005 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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No wonder it smells like fish....................or so I've heard

Edited, Wed Nov 16 11:01:19 2005 by SophusTehNewb
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