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#1 Nov 04 2005 at 4:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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My priest has 262 enchanting now. But, not surprising, materials have become hard to get my hands on. By selling off some items I now have enough dream dust for eight greater stamina enchants, +7 to stamina, to bracers. I never see prices advertised for enchants so I was hoping to get some advice here. In general, what does this enchant sell for on your server? I’m on Blackhand, but a general idea of pricing, even on other servers, would be more than I have now. If I can sell the enchants for enough I can afford to keep buying dream dust on the AH when available which would be nice until I can’t skill up on it anymore.

Thanks.
#2 Nov 04 2005 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
I'm not an enchanter but i have paid 2g for that enchant i think. Being a lock +Sta enchants are really useful, but i think +Int ones are worth more money, personally i'd pay upto 4g for that same enchant in Int. Hope that helps
#3 Nov 04 2005 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
Are you a tailor as well as an enchanter? To obtain dream dust, I have found that if you can make and DE Runecloth belts it is well worth your while. You can usually get an average of 3-4 dusts off of it, sometimes essences, and I have gotten shards. If you don't tailor I would talk to a guildie that does and exchange them mats to make them. That is 3 bolts of Runecloth and 1 rune thread.

Also depending on your level, farming green armor to DE should be a problem. Look for armor in the early 50's. I wouldn't advise buying all your enchanting Mats as its expensive.

Also, instead of selling the enchant, offer to do if for free if they buy the Mats, or sell it for the price of mats...that way you aren't paying out of pocket.

There is a great guide on here about leveling enchanting for less money: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=393

I would check it out.



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#4 Nov 04 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Are you a tailor as well as an enchanter? To obtain dream dust, I have found that if you can make and DE Runecloth belts it is well worth your while. You can usually get an average of 3-4 dusts off of it, sometimes essences, and I have gotten shards. If you don't tailor I would talk to a guildie that does and exchange them mats to make them. That is 3 bolts of Runecloth and 1 rune thread.


My enchanter, a level 35 priest, has 300 tailoring. I also have a hunter with 300 leatherworking. I had, what I thought, was a lot of thick and rugged leather in the bank. I looked patterns up on thottbot and found the following:

Nightscape Pants (item level 46): 14 thick leather, 4 silken thread
Wicked Leather Gauntlets (item level 53): 8 rugged leather, 1 black dye, 1 rune thread
Wicked Leather Bracers (item level 53): 8 rugged leather, 1 black dye, 1 rune thread

I started making these and disenchanting them. But I was only getting 1 and 2 dream dust each, even for the gauntlets and bracers. It could have just been bad luck, but there you have it. What I found was that I was better off selling the items to the vendor and using that money to buy stacks of 10 dream dust in the AH for 5 gold each. So, that’s what I did. Well, until I quickly ran out of leather. Just FYI: the thick leather pants sold for more than the bracers, which sold for more than the gauntlets.

I expect the same will hold true for tailoring the belt you mentioned. But if you’re getting three to four dust per belt I’ll be more than happy to give it a try.

Runecloth Belt (item level 51): 15 runecloth, 1 rune thread

But depending on how my luck runs with the belt, I may go back to leatherworking. I think I can farm leather faster than cloth. The item you list takes 15 runecloth. Runecloth can drop two or even three at a time, but I can also go over five kills without getting any cloth at all. I’m guaranteed one leather for every animal I kill. And I can use both thick and rugged leather for this purpose, which is good as both can be skinned off 55+ mobs.

My level 60 rogue has skinning and mining. I still need LOTS of evil bat’s eyes for the necklace I want. So I can farm more leather and continue doing what I did this morning. But now that I can do some decent enchants it seems a shame to waste them by enchanting my own gear over and over again.

With the money I made I bought enough dream dust for eight greater stamina enchants. My thought was that if I could sell each enchant for at least 2.5 gold I could keep buying stacks of dust when they were 5 gold or less. But I had no idea if the enchant was worth that much.

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Also depending on your level, farming green armor to DE should be a problem. Look for armor in the early 50's. I wouldn't advise buying all your enchanting Mats as its expensive.


I’ve tried this as well. I’ve not had much luck at it. Greens drop so rarely for me that I can farm leather and make my own greens much faster.

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Also, instead of selling the enchant, offer to do if for free if they buy the Mats, or sell it for the price of mats...that way you aren't paying out of pocket.


This is a good idea. In fact, I saw someone doing just that this morning before I came to work. And I may well have to type out a macro for it and give it a try. But to be honest, it’s not my first choice. I’m not exactly the outgoing, sales type of person. You might, reasonably, ask what the heck I’m doing taking up enchanting then. I’m learning it for myself, I have two accounts, and for friends. And some day for whatever guild I end up joining. Being able to help other people is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for me. But if I can manage to take enchanting to 300 without shouting over the trade channels I’m going to go for it.
#5 Nov 04 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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An easy way to price enchants is to figure out the cost of materials via the AH, then mark up by a margin that is comfortable to you. You can also offer 'free with mats' enchants at the same time. Most people tip if your doing enchants for free.
#6 Nov 10 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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An easy way to price enchants is to figure out the cost of materials via the AH, then mark up by a margin that is comfortable to you. You can also offer 'free with mats' enchants at the same time. Most people tip if your doing enchants for free.


Well on my server, Shattered Hand, you will be very lucky if you can sell enchants with this method. Most of the time the price of the mats alone will be way overpriced for the enchant that uses them, muchless adding a profit to the equation.
There are so many high level enchanters on my server that can offer these enchants for less than the cost of mats, is the main reason. They have the mats gathered through DEing what they have collected from high end instances and guild supplied items.
You cant compete with this if you are having to actually buy your mats from the AH.

For example someone spams that they need a +7 sta bracer. You send them a /w saying that you can do for (AH cost of mats which are about 3gold+add profit if you really want to be laughed at)
They immediately laugh at you and ssy "STFU I can get that enchant a lot cheaper"

This is because the fore mentioned enchanters will sell the same enchant for 2g being as they didnt have to buy the mats.
It is even worse for higher level enchants. Say like +7 agi boots which the mats would cost you about 40g on my server.
There are enchanters selling this enchant for 20g often. So there is no way your gonna find anyone buying it for 40g muchless turn a profit selling it at like 42g.

What even makes less sense to me is these enchanters could easily sell the mats for way more than they are selling the enchants that use the mats.

I tried many ways of leveling my enchanting and found about the only way was to give the freaking things away with me supplying the mats or for a tip like was stated, but even then you loose a crap load of gold doing it. And believe me I tried for a while to make gold leveling it. I didnt just try for an hour and say ***** it this is taking too long.
It isnt an easy prof to level up. I am at 300 now and have all the normal run of the mill enchants that are attainable from trainer or AH. (accept crusader which sells for 500g right now)I am still farming the stupid tower for it currently.

I here that it gets better at turning a profit when you get the really desired enchants like 15agi and whatnot cause people will just about pay anything for those enchants no my server.
Also when my guild gets to the Raid instance status which we are closely nearing maybe I can get more DE items and be able to compete with these other master enchanters on my server.

#7 Nov 13 2005 at 1:57 AM Rating: Good
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It's a long road to level enchanting. Take your time and make either leathercraft or tailoring items to disenchant. You can also break down random green drops above level 41 for the ingredients you need. I like the wicked leather headbands. I get Illusion dust, Greater Eternal essence, and occasionally Large Brilliant Shards. You can sell what you don't want to buy more of what you do. Or you can keep it all and give away enchants for tips.
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