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I have a dumb question that kinda goes along with this. At what level does DE stop leveling up your chanting skill? At what point will I actually have to start enchanthing stuff?

I believe it is level 225 to be able to de lvl 60-63 items. So as a BE you can be level 215 (because of the +10 enchanting).

Both Alliechrusher and beebsman need to read the tradeskills FAQ. The answers are there, and there is no reason whatsoever to re-state them. So why do people fail to read FAQa?

1. I am a unique individual, therefore no one has ever thought of this question before!
2. I know the game so well already and FAQs are for those that don't know how to play.
3. I crave attention, and asking a question that may or may not be in the FAQ (I don't really care) is my way of getting it.

I have nothing but contempt for people who ignore FAQs.

What i meant was: What level does my alt have to be to get skill 225 in enchanting. Cause my guess is that i cant get skill 225 with a level 20 char...

I'll tell you a little story that might give you some insight into why I'm going to respond to you the way I am.

I was in Nagrand last night waiting for my party to form up for a quest. Someone asked in /1 where to find a specific lake. (The one next to Sunspring Post). I was too busy organzing with my party to respond but I glanced long enough at each line of the exchange to get a grasp of what was going on.

So someone looking for a location to do a quest asks where that location might be in /1. Some overly-full of himself jamtard replies north of Nagrand.

Wait a second...how can a terrain feature in Nagrand be north of Nagrand? This confused the hell out of the person asking the question (and rightfully so) so they asked something to the effect of, "You mean in Zangarmarsh?!"

No reply.

A few minutes later they asked again.

Still no reply.

A few minutes later? They ask again and all of a sudden it's on. Half the friggin' zone starts jumping down this guy's throat because:

a) He asked a simple question.
b) He was given garbage information.
c) He was trying to sort out the confusion.

By now my group had done our quest and I had an opportunity to look a little more closely at what was going on. North of Nagrand? Ok, give the guy who provided the answer a little credit and assume he got Nagrand and Telaar confused. Even still, north of Telaar is 90% of the friggin' zone, and if you look at the map, straight north of Telaar doesn't give you the lake the guy needed, it gives the one next to the Throne of Elements.

Guess who was the first jamtard to go after the person who asked the question? The idiot who supplied, "north of Nagrand" and didn't bother to follow up. The gist of the criticisms against the person who asked the question?

"Don't be lazy the first thing you should do when you enter a new zone is expose the entire map."
"I'm sick of you lazy ***** asking your questions."
"My mommy and daddy didn't love me enough so now I feel powerful by putting other people down for no reason."

Ok, all but the third one. That was implied.

Funny thing is, I had done a quest in that lake, so obviously I'd been there. More funny still, having already been there, when you mouse over it on the map you don't get a description of the lake. That means it's entirely possible that a person could go there and a few days (or a week or more depending on how long the spent in the zone once they explored it) and have completely forgotten which lake it was.

I offered more clear directions to the person scrambling for clarification. Took all of 10 seconds out of my day.

The FAQS on Alla are frequently well written. They're also frequently disorganized, poorly thought out, difficult to search, and otherwise next to useless. Coming down on people for not memorizing the FAQs before they come here to ask a question is pretty weak. If you really want to be helpful, just answer the question or give them a section in the FAQ where they can find the information.

Otherwise, kindly stfu.

I normally answer questions, but questions that are answered fully in the FAQ? Sorry, but it's stupidity to do that, unless you're an idiot that believes that giving an answer will teach people how to look things up for themselves. Or, perhaps you answer out of vanity. "Look at me! I can give you the answer that's in a sticky right above this thread! Aren't I uber?"


This paragraph was written by someone who hasn't bothered to even look at the Trade skills FAQ. Each tradeskill has its own page, and the first page is devoted to information that applies across all tradeskills.

Edited, Jul 11th 2007 6:52am by ohmikeghod

Assume less, please.

I have read the FAQs here, and I don't like them. I read through them once or twice and have since gone elsewhere for my tradeskill information. More to the point, if there's a sticky somewhere it has got 2 paragraphs to cinvince me that it's a worthwhile read. If I'm not convinced after those two paragraphs, I go elsewhere.

For someone who tosses around words like, "stupidity" and "idiot" like they are going out of style, I'm surprised you'd offer the suggestion that everyone read every FAQ and sticky before asking a question. That's basically what you're doing. Tradeskill question? Read the tradeskill FAQ or you're in for it. Don't like the way its laid out? Tough. ohmikeghod rules these here forums, and he says don't you dare ask a question that hasn't been answered somewhere already.

Point taken.

Does 375 skinning ever get more interesting?

Actually, it can't. North of Nagrand can't be in Nagrand. It's a symantic impossibility. Nagrand is a zone. If you say north of Nagrand, you're saying north of the zone, which is outside of the zone. You've inserted minor yet significant alterations into the orginal statement that would have made a whole lot more sense to the person asking the question, but it would have still been wrong information. The lake the person was looking for is in central Nagrand.

More to the point of the thread dreailment, if a person isn't inclined to offer accurate information, they're much better off offering no information at all than berating a person for asking the question. There is nothing healthy or justifiable about berating someone for that reason. Offer them an answer and follow up with their questions, refer them to an alternate source of information, or make no comment. That's really the only reasonable option.