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#1 Jul 11 2007 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've been unable to find the answer. I currently have managed to get my Engineering to 360 and I seem to be stuck. The recipes I do have that will take me up to 375 call for mats that I am currently unable to farm for(Primal Nether).

Can anyone recomend a recipe that I can use to go the last 15 points I need? Also in anyones who's more experienced opinion what is the best way to get the Primals I need? I am not to the level of running the instances on Heroic mode yet.

I appreciate anyone's help and thank you in advance.


Edited, Jul 11th 2007 8:38pm by djkeith

Edited, Jul 11th 2007 8:39pm by djkeith
#2 Jul 14 2007 at 3:47 AM Rating: Decent
Try buying adamantite rifle recipe from AH. Easy mats (bit expensive) and carries you to 375.
#3 Jul 16 2007 at 7:08 AM Rating: Decent
There are several excellent engineering schematics that require a skill of lvl 360 to use that don't use primal nether.
The schematics for Khorium Scope and Felsteel Boomstick both drop off the same mob - Doomforge Engineers in Blades Edge Mountains at Forge Camp: Anger. That is the forge camp that is in the eastern edge of BEM on the way to Netherstorm.
The other lvl 360 schematic for Hyper-Vision Goggles drop off of Mo'arg Weaponsmiths in Shadowmoon Valley. They are located at the big demon camp south of the general horde flight point in SMV.
Keep in mind that all three schematics are Bind On Pickup, meaning that you'll have to get your feet a little bloody to use them - no AHing these bad boys. And I'll warn you in advance that it's going to take A LOT of grinding to get them, but it's well worth it because that sexy Gyro-Balanced Khorium Destroyer is in your future, I can feel it.
Plus, I got both the Felsteel Boomstick and Hyper-Vision Goggles in one day of grinding. It was a long day, but well worth it. Bring friends if you can.
#4 Jul 18 2007 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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There are those bop recipes mentioned. Also consortium faction has an elementium blasting powder (or something like that) which can help. You need some faction rep with them to buy it.

Additionally, adamantite scope is still green at that level. Make a few more if you want. They’re pretty profitable as far as engineering items go.

Finally, besides the lvl 69 adamantite rifle which doesn’t seem to sell well because many level 70 players are about to get the level 70 weapons, you still have the option of yellow-level adamantite frame, felsteel case (or something like that), and khorium power core. Look at your future recipes and chances are you need a few more of those anyway, might as well make them now when they give you points.

If you can get that khorium scope recipe, that is definitely something that will sell at AH so at least you can get some/all money back.


#5 Jul 19 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
um Im not sure what these engineering patterns you have that will take you to 375 but require a nether are. Engineering only has 2-4 patterns that use one, 1-3 of which are a BOP helm which would be stupid to make and the other is the gun which you cant train until 375 anyways.

As for suggestions I would say khorium scope. It took me maybe <45min to get it when killing those mobs. It is kind of expensive to make but the difference is people actually buy it. And got quite a number of stacks of netherweave and a few greens too so in the end not bad.

*edit* by the way, I have farmed a number of these BOP recipes both in alchemy and engineering and I must say it does NOT take very long to get. the scope is hte longest Ive ever had to spend getting a pattern and even that was trivial compared to other grinding things.

Edited, Jul 19th 2007 9:39am by Lienna
#6 Jul 19 2007 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello DjKeith

Some engineering suggestions for you which come from my experience on my warrior,Sevhen: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Sevhen

First,have a look-see at the felsteel stabilizer and khorium power core requirements for your wish list of future engineering projects. If you don't have those schematics,get them,as it is likely you will get a skill-up point or two just making them to have on hand. Send the parts you make to alt for storage.

As noted,you can farm the Mech Engineers near Toshley's Station in hopes that the schematic for the Felsteel Boomstick drop. I suggest you pick up the quest chain that requires you to kill mobs in that camp,then treat the schematic,should you find it,as something to pad your engineering catalogue. The guns are not cheap to make,mats wise,and if your experience is remotely close to mine (old,high-density server) you will find it difficult to sell them at anything close to what the mats would sell for in the AH. If you have a huge stockpile of mining mats,and no interest other than maxxing out your engineering skill,then that schematic alone can bring you to 375.
You are far better off farming for the Khorium Scope schematic as a tool to level your engineering skillups. I read on this forum that the schematic now apparently drops from the Mech Engineers; at the time I farmed for it,then eventually got it (March 07),it only dropped from one source -SunFury Bowman- outside of Mana Forge Duro. It took awhile -several dedicated farming runs there,as Bowman are fairly rare,and the respawn cycle was slow. If the schematic does indeed drop from the Mech engineers,it makes sense that the farming may take less time,as there are far more engineers running about,and they are lower level,and easier to kill than SunFury Bowman. Still,I caution those of you who consider Lienna's 45 minutes to get it as the average,or benchmark,to reconsider. I personally think he was lucky indeed :)
But as Lienna notes,the nice thing about the Khorium Scope schematic is that it may actually be sold for a modest profit (+20-25 gold over average mats price on your server's AH). Hunters who have spent some time at lvl 70 will upgrade to them from an Adamantite Scope,and for some hunter builds,the +12 consistant damage buff is better than the Kara (Attumen -Stabilized Eternium Scope) schematic drop of the +28crit to ranged weps scope. Note that profit potential on selling the Khorium Scope depends alot on your server. Some engineers anxious to max out their skill (or in need of gold) will sell the scope at well below AH cost for the mats alone. I have seen that on Suramar for the Khorium Scope,and more frequently for the Felsteel Boomstick,which is why I advised against making a bunch of those in hopes of selling them at anything close to mats cost. Again,your server may be different.

There are currently 12,not 4 engineering items which require Primal Nethers.
There are 11 various Epic Helms,and 1 Epic gun. Although my engineer is a warrior,and warriors can wear any armor,Blizz has decreed that he can only make the Plate helms; I know Hunter engineers that would prefer the helm for rogues,but they can only make the Mail Helm. Go figure...In any case djkeith,Primal Nethers can and do drop occasionally from end bosses in normal 5-Man instance runs,so there is hope for you yet. The only advice (pre-heroic) is to run alot of 5-Man's :). Once you are level 70,concentrate on Sha'Tar rep,make revered,then run Mechanar alot. Aside from the guaranteed Primal Nether drop on the last boss (same as any heroic),you can also collect 5 Badges of Justice from a full Mechanar run. 2 complete Mech runs and you can turn in 10 badges for 1 Primal Nether -assuming you lost both rolls for one.

Good luck to you,post back with any questions :)



Otis
#7 Jul 20 2007 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello DjKeith

Some engineering suggestions for you which come from my experience on my warrior,Sevhen: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Sevhen

First,have a look-see at the felsteel stabilizer and khorium power core requirements for your wish list of future engineering projects. If you don't have those schematics,get them,as it is likely you will get a skill-up point or two just making them to have on hand. Send the parts you make to alt for storage.

As noted,you can farm the Mech Engineers near Toshley's Station in hopes that the schematic for the Felsteel Boomstick drop. I suggest you pick up the quest chain that requires you to kill mobs in that camp,then treat the schematic,should you find it,as something to pad your engineering catalogue. The guns are not cheap to make,mats wise,and if your experience is remotely close to mine (old,high-density server) you will find it difficult to sell them at anything close to what the mats would sell for in the AH. If you have a huge stockpile of mining mats,and no interest other than maxxing out your engineering skill,then that schematic alone can bring you to 375.
You are far better off farming for the Khorium Scope schematic as a tool to level your engineering skillups. I read on this forum that the schematic now apparently drops from the Mech Engineers; at the time I farmed for it,then eventually got it (March 07),it only dropped from one source -SunFury Bowman- outside of Mana Forge Duro. It took awhile -several dedicated farming runs there,as Bowman are fairly rare,and the respawn cycle was slow. If the schematic does indeed drop from the Mech engineers,it makes sense that the farming may take less time,as there are far more engineers running about,and they are lower level,and easier to kill than SunFury Bowman. Still,I caution those of you who consider Lienna's 45 minutes to get it as the average,or benchmark,to reconsider. I personally think he was lucky indeed :)
But as Lienna notes,the nice thing about the Khorium Scope schematic is that it may actually be sold for a modest profit (+20-25 gold over average mats price on your server's AH). Hunters who have spent some time at lvl 70 will upgrade to them from an Adamantite Scope,and for some hunter builds,the +12 consistant damage buff is better than the Kara (Attumen -Stabilized Eternium Scope) schematic drop of the +28crit to ranged weps scope. Note that profit potential on selling the Khorium Scope depends alot on your server. Some engineers anxious to max out their skill (or in need of gold) will sell the scope at well below AH cost for the mats alone. I have seen that on Suramar for the Khorium Scope,and more frequently for the Felsteel Boomstick,which is why I advised against making a bunch of those in hopes of selling them at anything close to mats cost. Again,your server may be different.

There are currently 12,not 4 engineering items which require Primal Nethers.
There are 11 various Epic Helms,and 1 Epic gun. Although my engineer is a warrior,and warriors can wear any armor,Blizz has decreed that he can only make the Plate helms; I know Hunter engineers that would prefer the helm for rogues,but they can only make the Mail Helm. Go figure...In any case djkeith,Primal Nethers can and do drop occasionally from end bosses in normal 5-Man instance runs,so there is hope for you yet. The only advice (pre-heroic) is to run alot of 5-Man's :). Once you are level 70,concentrate on Sha'Tar rep,make revered,then run Mechanar alot. Aside from the guaranteed Primal Nether drop on the last boss (same as any heroic),you can also collect 5 Badges of Justice from a full Mechanar run. 2 complete Mech runs and you can turn in 10 badges for 1 Primal Nether -assuming you lost both rolls for one.

Good luck to you,post back with any questions :)



Otis


as I mentioned in my post regarding primal nethers that count is technically not correct because blizzard pigeonholed classes the most any person can get from a trainer is 3 helms + gun(which gives no skill since you get it at 375). hunters for example can only see one, same for shamans, druids can see all 3 leather ones, pallys can only see 2 plate ones (I think) And making more than one is hardly a smart thing since you cant sell them. So for all intents and purposes engineering "needs" only one primal nether during the leveling phase. On that note I have gotten my two needed primals w/o a heroic run, got both from normal steamvaults, he has had rather decent drop rate of nethers despite not being heroic. But again the most you would really need is one, for the helm and more in the future if you want to try and sell the gun
#8 Jul 20 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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First,have a look-see at the felsteel stabilizer and khorium power core requirements for your wish list of future engineering projects. If you don't have those schematics,get them,as it is likely you will get a skill-up point or two just making them to have on hand. Send the parts you make to alt for storage.


Exactly what I did. I am at 371 and didnt need a single nether or need to grind for any recipies. Not saying those recipies aren't worth getting however. I just wanted to skill up to increase the level of my trinket pets ASAP.
#9 Jul 22 2007 at 3:04 AM Rating: Decent
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To be clear:
Schematic for Khorium Scope drops only from Sunfury Bowmen at Manaforge Duro, and it's BOP
Then, when you are at 360 engineering, you need exactly 15 scopes to be done. IIRC its going yellow at 370, but it's giving skill up all the time.
Mats are expensive, but you should do profit on crafting these.
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