Enchanting and "Your Mats" (noob question)Follow

Having someone else enchant your items does basically boil down to the honor system. Trade them the mats. Re-open trade with item in the not to be traded slot. They enchant with your mats. Done.

This is one reason it's preferable to use a guildie or someone you know/trust to do the enchant.

Yeah, I have a high-level chant friend, but she doesn't have the one I want yet (with luck she'll have it when I need it). I guess the only other option (besides the honor system) is to sell my mats to the chanter, then buy the enchant from him (maybe for a lil more), so that there's some collateral involved.

I would just buy the recipe for my friend, but it's BOP. Should I maybe suggest this on the O-Boards, that you be able to put your mats in the "will be traded" section, and have those mats be used on the enchant (or same thing for shield spikes, etc)?

Yes, you have to trust the enchanter. Having said that, I will NEVER enchant anything using my own mats. That leads to the the buyer saying that I'm charging too much for the enchant, and then they want to haggle over the price. It ends up with me using /ignore more often than not, before the situation turns ugly. My feeling is that if the person wanting the enchant can't afford the mats, then he can't afford the enchant.

I put all my mats on the AH at a fair price, and I don't charge anything for my enchants. If they buy my mats, I've made my profit, and don't require a tip.

Report them for fraud if they take your materials and run. IIRC as long as you had an agreement that was broken the GM will return your mats and ban the player.





Edited, Jul 17th 2007 5:32pm by Daliis

I haven't experienced it personally. I just remember someone on the forums complaining his brother got him banned for 72 hours, and the Blizzard e-mail mentioned "fraud" as the reason.



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If I'm doing an enchant for a stranger using their mats and they ask me if they can trust me, I tell them that they have no reason to trust me and they have to decide if they want to take the risk. That's not to say that I've ever run off with someone's mats (nor will I ever in the future), but they really don't have any reason to trust me. They don't know me from Adam. The way I see it, for all I know this person (for whatever reason) has been grinding dilligently for the gold to get this enchant and are excited about getting it. For me to run off with their mats...wow...I have an idea of how I'd feel and I couldn't do that to anyone. I'd rather tell them to **** off than steal from them.

On the other hand, if I'm seeking to have a particular crafting item made and I can't have it done within my guild, I always make sure to include a /w in the transaction outlining the details. (ie, "So I'm giving you <x, y, z> mats that you're going to turn into <item(s)> for me, and in return I'm going to give you <tip/fee>, right?") That way a) we're both clear on what is about to take place and b) if they try to run off with my mats, the specifics of the transaction are in the logs so a GM will have an easier time sorting out what happened.

OK, so what can you do to try to ensure that the deal is honest? Start by asking yourself a few questions:

1. Is the enchanter in a guild where you have friends?
2. Is he guilded at all?

Don't go with unguilded enchanters. Perform a /who "guild name" to see how many people are online in that guild. The larger the guild, the better the chance that you will have some recourse if the deal turns sour.

This really doesn't mean that unguilded enchanters are all bad, just that you can have someone other than a Blizz GM to turn to if you meet a dishonest one. Guildmasters can get very touchy about members ruining their guild name and often will make good for rip-offs on their own, as well as punishing people who perform them.

I myself am an enchanter. I agree whole heartedly with



- because people always try to ***** you over price wise. It is a rare moment when i come across somebody who is upfront about payment and is not shy about paying. I my self use mats that i have, and then when im out i tell the customer to get them themselves. That way they cant complain to you about price. You arent the person selling. And if they have the mats, i do it for free (but on rare occasion i have been tipped :D. It makes the 'chanters lives easier.
I remember one time i was in IF selling greater striking, leveling up my enchanting at the same time. The mats for that were over 20g. (large radiant shards arent cheap). I was doin it for 20. One guy asked the price. I said the price of mats are over 20g, ill do it for 20. His reply was "Are you retarded?". He then made some Bs claim that another guy was doin it for 7g. Then started calling me a noob. I said he needs a dose of manners, and then ignored him. A while later i un ignored him cos he was lfg and i said we need a member, lets not make things hard. As soon as i did i found him bad mouthing me in lfg. What the hell!!!

So the moral of this story is, look up the prices of mats yourselves. Most of the time you can get your enchant cheaper that way. (Bulk buying and such). And dont call your enchanter names. You wont get the enchant that way.

Now, as to trusting the enchanter or not... Your gonna have to. And rest assured you can call a GM if anything goes sour. Like people have said before, make what your doing clear. And dont be cheap about payment. Thats a real downer. What some people like to do is put both the mats and the item in the trade box, so that the enchanter uses his own mats and gets them back straight after. Of course, that is dependant on wether he has them or not, or can afford them on AH.