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#1 Dec 23 2007 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok I love both cooking and fishing.

So I was thrilled with the idea of cooking dailies and the fish tracker.

But honestly now I'm not quite as thrilled. Can we please have more than 2 cooking dailies? I like cooking. Can we eat something else please? I'd love to cook it! It was a great idea. I just don't understand why they only have two.

And yes the fish tracking is great. Yet prior to BC I recall the fishing wreckage was much better. You could fish up greens to sell or d/e, bundles of cloth that would sell well on the AH. A bunch of stuff. But now, the items fished up (other than fish) are worth far less in comparison.

So when I'm fishing up bluefish, mudfish, or crawdads .. I want to scream every time I pull up some useless "curious crate". Of course I can't just throw it back. It's curious. I have to look and see what's inside .. just in case I might find something remarkable there one day. /bonks self

The scrolls are "ok", but only some of them sell.

As far as I can tell the wreckage in Zangarmarsh is the best.

But can't they add just a little bit of diversity here? Some new things to cook? Some odd things that come up out of the water? Something? Anything?

#2 Dec 24 2007 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
There's two dailies? I know the rokk has one, where is the other?
#3 Dec 24 2007 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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The Rokk has the dailies. He only gives out a few quests to do though.

I actually did get a new quest today to take his cookpot over to Nagrand. Usually it's been the kaliri wing thing, and the raptor/serpent recipe.
#4 Dec 24 2007 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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wildsimian wrote:
Ok I love both cooking and fishing.

So I was thrilled with the idea of cooking dailies and the fish tracker.

But honestly now I'm not quite as thrilled. Can we please have more than 2 cooking dailies? I like cooking. Can we eat something else please? I'd love to cook it! It was a great idea. I just don't understand why they only have two.


Do you mean two cooking dailies? I'm pretty sure there's only one, if there is another please share!

Do you mean two cooking quests? Again, I'm pretty sure there are four - Manalicious, Revenge is Tasty, Soup for the Soul, and Super Hot Stew.

I too enjoy the quests and its nice to have the "special" recipes my friends do not have if they did not spend time leveling their cooking - although I do share what I cook with them.

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#5 Dec 26 2007 at 12:40 AM Rating: Good
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No. I'm talking about the quests within the cooking dailies. I was wrong originally, I came across three of them. You can cook the kaliri wing, the raptor/windserpent meat, and the clefthoof meat in nagrand.

I'd like to cook something other than these 3 things - over and over again. I have yet to get manalicious.

Ooh and I'd love to brew stuff too. Like the hot apple cider we have during the holidays. More cooking recipes ftw!



Edited, Dec 26th 2007 3:43am by wildsimian
#6 Dec 26 2007 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
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wildsimian wrote:
I have yet to get manalicious.

Ooh and I'd love to brew stuff too. Like the hot apple cider we have during the holidays. More cooking recipes ftw!


My Pally has no trouble with Manalicious at all, but I'm not sure if its because he is a flower picker or if everyone with the quest sees the bushes on their mini-map. I don't know because my Pally is my only 70 at this point. The quest requires you to go to Netherstorm, inside one of the domes, and pick mana berries from bushes that grow inside there.

By the way - if you have not done the quests in that dome yet (I had not), they are a snap and you can make yourself some good cash while you are there. Just get them before you do the quest because one of them requires you to kill the lynx's which are all around the mana berry bushes.

And I agree with you about more things to cook, even though I have a ton already can cannot see what other buffs can be added, its just fun to make different things. I made egg nog and gingerbread cookies and sent one of each, along with a candy cane, go all of my friends for Christmas. I got a great response to that!

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#7 Dec 26 2007 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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Here's hoping that Blizzard wanted to start out small with the cooking quests to test them out and have plans to expand them.

The thing I'd like to have, though, is the ability to create our own recipes - combine 2-3 foods (farmed meat, fish or plant with spices and maybe a liquid) and see how it turns out. Most of the time, it'd just taste bad and say so, sometimes, you'd poison yourself and you'd die, sometimes you'd discover a great recipe with a cool buff, sometimes you'd turn green or have smoke come out your ears, etc.
#8 Dec 29 2007 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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actodd wrote:
Here's hoping that Blizzard wanted to start out small with the cooking quests to test them out and have plans to expand them.

The thing I'd like to have, though, is the ability to create our own recipes - combine 2-3 foods (farmed meat, fish or plant with spices and maybe a liquid) and see how it turns out. Most of the time, it'd just taste bad and say so, sometimes, you'd poison yourself and you'd die, sometimes you'd discover a great recipe with a cool buff, sometimes you'd turn green or have smoke come out your ears, etc.


Yeah this sounds like fun. Probably too complicated to put in the game, but it does sound like fun.

Maybe they could code different meat for fish as appropriate mixes with other materials. (Kind of how they do gem slots) X Meat can be combined with X spice and/or X liquid. Others could have different combinations.
#9 Dec 29 2007 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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The problem with this is that it is only fun and exotic for the first few weeks. Then everyone will just go here and find out what objects they have to combine to make that uber food. I would not mind seeing something like the Alchemy discoveries. Cook more food, learn how to be a better cook, makes perfect sense to me.

Just my 2c.
#10 Dec 30 2007 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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They could include this thing where charectors who are active cooks over a long time increase the buffs of the food they make by a margin.

Ofcourse this would take quite an active cook and a measure of time [something wasteful to do by farming, but nice when just by being an active cook]
#11 Dec 31 2007 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Would be nice if we cooks could get a quest to make some amount of food or do some long chain cooking quest that would yeild us a Chef's hat to wear while cooking that would net us a nice chance to double our yeild on recipes or give a bonus to the food we cooked as an uberly cooked food. Also perhaps give us a cooking stove that we could plop down anywhere (even in an instance and cook something for the group) (i know i know we have fire wood but wouldn't it be funny to pop out a stove and our chefs hat for some uber food?)
#12 Jan 02 2008 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently (as in the last three days) powerleveled my cooking on my rogue to 325 so I could do the cooking dailies. Just did my first one yesterday and it was pretty fun for me. It's something to add a little variety to the skettis dailies (still working on getting the guild ready to do the 5 man to start on the Netherwing dailies). Now, I cook a lot of my own food, mostly for stamina buffs. Of course, the first recipe I got in my crate was Kibler's Bits and now all the hunters in my guild love me even more. I've had the reciper for less than 24 hours now and they have all kept me quite busy cooking for them.

However, I too am dissapointed in the lack of diversity in recipes at 350+. I understand the main purpose of food in WoW, but I am really starting to miss things like Sole Sushi from FFXI. In FFXI, food was used to give you 30 minute - 4 hours buffs that upped your strength, attack power, accuracy, evasion, health, etc. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar in WoW at higher end cooking levels that gave you more powerful buffs that lasted a bit longer than 10 min.
#13 Jan 03 2008 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Aeonkurai wrote:
However, I too am dissapointed in the lack of diversity in recipes at 350+. I understand the main purpose of food in WoW, but I am really starting to miss things like Sole Sushi from FFXI. In FFXI, food was used to give you 30 minute - 4 hours buffs that upped your strength, attack power, accuracy, evasion, health, etc. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar in WoW at higher end cooking levels that gave you more powerful buffs that lasted a bit longer than 10 min.


The stuff you can make at 325+ cooking all lasts 30 minutes or until you die :) Below are some of my favorites for personal use or giving out to friends.

  • Spicy Crawdads - 30 sta & 20 spirit
  • Spicy Hot Talbuk - 20 hit rating & 20 spirit
  • Skullfish Soup - 20 spell crit rating & 20 spirit
  • Golden Fishsticks - 44 healing & 20 spirit
  • Warpburgers/Grilled Mudfish - 20 agaility & 20 spirit
  • Roasted Clefthoof - 20 str & 20 spirit
  • Poached Bluefish/Cruncy Serpent/Blackened Basilisk - 23 spell dmg & 20 spirit
#14 Jan 03 2008 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
i really think the eating should be changeable not just bread even something simple like meat but why the hell just bread i know its a little OT but still I'm eating a haunch of meat what am i eating on screen lousy bread.

P.S. i said this only because i didn't want to start a new post so sorry for its off topicness.
#15 Jan 03 2008 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Having varied eating food could be good.

Drinking bread,

reminds me of a certain mall game with zombies.

nothing like drinking bagguettes after pan frying up some psycho fat lady guard.
#16 Jan 04 2008 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
Blizzard is probably wary of adding too much to the fishing trade. Anyone remember the fishing bots?

And in all honesty, you really shouldn't get much from fishing unless it's in an extremely dangerous area. You can max the skill without leaving a starting area.

Edited, Jan 4th 2008 8:28am by Kattoo
#17 Jan 05 2008 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
In my recent experience, leveling cooking from 265 to 274 (without fishing).....I am still one short of being able to use the runn tumm tuner (sp?) recipe.....wellll.....the average person could learn to speak mandarin Chinese in that time <g>.


Guess I am exaggerating a little, but the only recipe I have that will level at all is wolf steak. I have killed seevral hundred felwood wolves to get those 9 points.....

Tried several spots.....best bet for me was to go to 45,70 in Fellwood ...many wolves right around there....though with an erratic drop rate on the tender wolf meat.... Kill em all and then log out or leave for a few minutes...they respawn....rinse and repeat...Hey BINGO....FINALLY got 275...and thus could learn the runn tum tuber...and 16 of those got me to 291 and the recipe is still orange.

For any that do not know, you pick up the Tuber recipe from the imp Pusillin in dire maul east (easy for a 70 to solo). And the tubers themselves are in the dire maul pods scattered along the way.

Have fun.

Edited, Jan 5th 2008 7:51pm by Papaoomowmow
#18 Jan 06 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
You don't need to make Tubers man, you can go all the way to 375 cooking on crap you fish up and cooked with vendor bought recipes.

http://www.almostgaming.com/wowguides/wow-fishing-and-cooking-guide
#19 Jan 10 2008 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kattoo wrote:
You don't need to make Tubers man, you can go all the way to 375 cooking on crap you fish up and cooked with vendor bought recipes.


Papaoomowmow wrote:
In my recent experience, leveling cooking from 265 to 274 (without fishing).....I am still one short of being able to use the runn tumm tuner (sp?) recipe.....wellll.....the average person could learn to speak mandarin Chinese in that time <g>.


It is difficult at times to level cooking if you don’t like fishing. I actually do like fishing, so its not been a problem. If your in a guild you might ask someone who’s leveling their fishing to pass you some raw fish. Or try shopping in the AH for them. In any case I wish you the best of luck.

What I miss about cooking is the fun factor. In EQ we could cook meat that dropped off of some humanoid NPC. I’d love to be able to eat some tauren steak or blood elf surprise while standing next to a player of that race. My EQ character used to make Lizard on a Stick and pass it around during guild functions. This was fun because some of our guild members played lizard people. Yep, I do miss having fun with cooking.
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