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#1 Mar 18 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a little confused about +fishing items. Say I'm 100 fishing, and in an area where I'm leveling up every 2-3 catches. Then I add +75 lure or something of that nature. I assume my catches will become more frequent. But will my rate of leveling stay the same? Is being actual 175 fishing different from being 100 + 75 fishing? Thanks for the help.

#2 Mar 18 2008 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
From the guides I've read, the rate at which you gain skillups depends on your base skill. I think all the lures do is increase the chance of actually catching something, not so much your rate to skill up. Skill ups are more just sit there and keep casting, more than trying tricks to skill up quick. I don't think there is a way to skill up fishing quick.
#3 Mar 18 2008 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
you level up fishing the same speed whether you are fishing in a city or in outland. It is strictly based on what level your fishing is at (pre-lure) to depend on the number of successful catches to reach the next level.
#4 Mar 18 2008 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
Dilbrt wrote:
I don't think there is a way to skill up fishing quick.


QFT.

It's totally based on the number of casts. You could skill up to 375 just sitting in Stormwind fishing in the canal.

The goal is to not lose fish. Lures just let you fish a little higher area without losing fish. They are needed when you hit 375 and the area requires higher than that. While you are leveling, you can use a lure to fish a little higher area (doesn't make you skill up any faster), or just back off a bit into a slightly lower area.
#5 Mar 18 2008 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's totally based on the number of casts. You could skill up to 375 just sitting in Stormwind fishing in the canal.


Very true, except it's catches, not casts. Casts alone don't count toward skill ups. You have to actually catch, which includes looting. If you catch, but don't loot it, you won't get credit for the catch.

Higher skill reduces the number of misses, depending on the area you're in. For example, Zangarmarsh requires skill 305 just to be able to cast. So at 304, you have a 0% chance and can't cast. At 400, you will catch 100% of your casts in Zangarmarsh. Between 305 and 400, you will have an increasing number of missed fish the lower your skill. Except for the lowest level zones, they all have a minimum skill requirement (x) to be able to cast and a max number (x+95) beyond which no fish will be lost.

Also, the number of fish required to skill up is not dependent on where you fish. It is fixed and only depends on your skill level. And, skill level has no effect on the type of fish caught, or the time (1-20 seconds) per cast. Nor does it modify the required number of fish per skill up. The number of fish required goes up by one about every 25 skill points. By the time you're going for you last points to 375, it will be about 12 catches for every 1 skill point.

So, like Anobix said, you can skill 1-375 in Stormwind. But, the number of fish required for each skill point will be the same whether you fish in Stormwind or somewhere else. The benefit of Stormwind (or other low level areas) is that beyond a certain skill level, you will never miss a catch, so you'll skill up faster than if you went to a higher level zone where you risk missing catches.

El's Extreme Anglin' is pretty much the best fishing site out there, if you're looking for more info. It's a great site.



Edited, Mar 18th 2008 4:05pm by azwing
#6 Mar 18 2008 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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There is wisdom in finding a good balance in where you level. Sure, fishing in a capital city is safe and you'll be able to catch a fish on every cast really early, but those fish aren't worth anything

Fishing in the highest level zone you can without letting fish get away will increase your cashflow. Some lucrative places to fish are feralas and/or Ashzara for mid-range fishing. If you can catch fish most on most of your casts in a zone like Zangarmarsh, FISH THERE! You'll get fish that sell like hotcakes on the AH because of the special buffs they give, or even to just level up cooking.
#7 Mar 19 2008 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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Thank you everyone for the help. The mechanics of leaving up fishing are much different from the other professions, so it was a little confusing to me. I think I understand now.

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El's Extreme Anglin' is pretty much the best fishing site out there, if you're looking for more info. It's a great site.


I found this site last night while searching, defiantly a great site. He explains that if you are 90 points over the base fishing skill it takes to fish a certain area you will catch something 100% of the time. Any lower than 90 skill point over the base for an area will decrease the percentage of successful catches.
#8 Mar 28 2008 at 1:25 AM Rating: Good
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I always find it is far easier to get fishing to at least 100 in town or close to a town before going fishing for worthwhile fish ,for a start you need a lure to catch fish anyway but most worthwhile fish are at least 75 skill and it helps to get the 75 + skill level from the trainer , i found it takes around an hour at most in town to get the required skill level after that up to outland i never seem to need a lure except winterspring where i got that message you are not high enough in skill ? , at end game you will end up needing all the + skill items you can get as outland is mostly hard work with fish lost otherwise , even with the +20 rod and gloves and the best lure i still get fish getting away half the time.
#9 Mar 30 2008 at 6:13 PM Rating: Default
You could actually sit in a city and skill up from 1 to 375 fishing the newby pond/stream.
#10 Apr 01 2008 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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azwing wrote:
Very true, except it's catches, not casts. Casts alone don't count toward skill ups. You have to actually catch, which includes looting. If you catch, but don't loot it, you won't get credit for the catch.


This is close, but not entirely accurate. To gain a skill point we do have to “catch” something. That is to say we have to click on the bobber and a loot window has to appear. However, we do not actually have to loot it. My druid fell behind on his fishing skill. So I had to do some power fishing, as it were, last week. I had no need for the fish, so as soon as the loot window appeared I’d simply cast my line again. He didn’t loot any of his fish during his last 100 skill points.

azwing wrote:
And, skill level has no effect on the type of fish caught, or the time (1-20 seconds) per cast.


I can’t prove this, but after three plus years of fishing I strongly believe that a character’s skill level does, to some extent, affect the type of fish one pulls in. For example let’s look at the waters of Stormwind. There are three types of fish we can catch there: Brilliant Smallfish, Longjaw Mud Snapper and Bristle Whisker Catfish. When my characters have very low fishing skills they pull in mainly smallfish and snappers. Only rarely will they pull in a catfish. But when they come back and fish with a higher skill they will pull in a lot of catfish. So I do believe that what skill levels our characters have will affect the percentage chance of what fish, from the types found those waters, we will catch.
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