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#1 May 09 2008 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi,

I'm thinking of dropping engineering for enchanting.

I have some arcane dusts from disenchanting lvl 6x-70 greens, maybe around 1 full bank (the main window, not additional bags). Not much esle in stock.

So... I assume I would need to buy lots of greens / blues at the AH in order to powerlevel my enchanting from 0 to 375. And possibly to buy those terribly expensive shards and cristals.

Can anybody tell me how much it's going to cost me (not asking for a precise quote; just if it's going to be 500 gold, 1k, 2k, 3k, etc?).

Thanks,

nostra
#2 May 09 2008 at 2:06 AM Rating: Excellent
If you just buy gear to level in a single bound, it will likely cost 1k gold as you'll clear the AH of cheap gear and need to start buying pricey stuff (oh and personally I'd avoid shards where possible).

If you can DE as you go, and level it over around 2 weeks minimum then you should be able to break even without too much hassle.

The table below shows what mats you need for 1-375 using the most economical recipes:
Component		Minimum Amount	Estimated Amount	Single Cost	Estimated Cost 
Strange Dust		153 (16 stacks)	180 (18 stacks)		1535		234855 
Soul Dust		75 (8 stacks)	90 (9 stacks)		2811		210825 
Vision Dust		156 (16 stacks)	170 (17 stacks)		7445		1161420 
Dream Dust		290 (29 stacks)	320 (32 stacks)		6821		1978090 
Illusion Dust		82 (9 stacks)	90 (12 stacks)		22158		1816956 
Lesser Magic Essence	11 (2 stacks)	15 (2 stacks)		2840		31240 
Greater Magic Essence	18 (2 stacks)	25 (3 stacks)		8520		153360 
Lesser Astral Essence	10 (1 stacks)	15 (2 stacks)		4106		41060 
Greater Astral Essence	2 (1 stacks)	2 (1 stacks)		12318		24636 
Lesser Mystic Essence	20 (2 stacks)	25 (3 stacks)		5232		104640 
Greater Mystic Essence	2 (1 stacks)	2 (1 stacks)		15696		31392 
Lesser Nether Essence	10 (1 stacks)	15 (2 stacks)		2871		28710 
Greater Nether Essence	20 (2 stacks)	25 (3 stacks)		8613		172260 
Greater Eternal Essence	4 (1 stacks)	4 (1 stacks)		143512		574048 
Small Brilliant Shard	4 (1 stacks)	4 (1 stacks)		32187		128748 
Large Brilliant Shard	2 (1 stacks)	2 (2 stacks)		110825		221650 
Shadowgem		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		10341		10341 
Iridescent Pearl	1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		39171		39171 
Black Pearl		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		31865		31865 
Golden Pearl		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		20196		20196 
Copper Rod		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		61523		61523 
Silver Rod		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		21000		21000 
Golden Rod		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		41505		41505 
Truesilver Rod		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		58123		58123 
Arcanite Rod		1 (1 stacks)	1 (1 stacks)		601325		601325 
 
									Total	7798939

Total cost at my server prices is 780g on average.
List from Blizzardguides, Prices from Auctioneer.
#3 May 09 2008 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks a lot, Kenoen.

What do you mean "DE as you go"? As I said, I'm lvl 70 and I don't have access to low level gear and I guess that I can't DE lvl 70 items as an apprentice enchanter, can I?

A friend advised me to clean low level dungeons like the prison, etc. to get the greens I need to level up enchanting. Is it what I should do?

Thanks,

nostra
#4 May 09 2008 at 4:58 AM Rating: Good
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You can check the sticky :)

If you have tons of money, then just buy the mats off the AH. Depending on your server, this could cost you upwards of 5k gold.

If you want to conserve money, then buy item off the AH to DE. This can save you about 50% of the above method (assuming you buy items that will DE into mats worth 2x what you paid), but takes longer.

If you want to conserve even more money, buy double the items to DE, sell half the mats, and use the other half to level your enchanting skill (assuming you buy items that will DE into mats worth 2x what you paid). In theory, you should be able to roughly break even.

Finally, if you want to go romping around in the old world, I put together a guide. You don't have to follow it for every specific step, but I think it can help you get to where you want to be without too much difficulty. This will take you the longest, but I found it was at least more interesting (compared to living at the AH).

Edited, May 9th 2008 9:00am by YJMark
#5 May 09 2008 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
YJMark pretty much hit the nail on the head with "DE as you go".

You can normally make a 30%+ profit on disenchanting greens from the AH (low priced greens)

Your best bet it to use Auctioneer/Enchantrix and use the command
/enchantrix percentless 50
or
35
.
This will highlight items that are priced at less than half what you will make from disenchanting them.

So buying 10 level 10 items to disenchant will give you 30 dusts for example.
Use 12-15 of the dusts to level up and sell the rest, gaining you enough to buy another 10 level 10 items to DE.

This way you can level enchanting pretty much for free.

Oh and you can disenchant level 70 greens/blues with only level 275 enchanting.
#6 May 09 2008 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Brillant, thanks a LOT guys.

I'll do that no later than tonight!

nostra
#7 May 09 2008 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
YJMark wrote:
If you want to conserve even more money, buy double the items to DE, sell half the mats, and use the other half to level your enchanting skill (assuming you buy items that will DE into mats worth 2x what you paid). In theory, you should be able to roughly break even.


Funny thing - "break even" doesn't even come close. My latest disenchanter was at 150, and I put 200G into items on the AH. After I DE'd I was at 204 in enchanting. After I sold what I didn't use to level enchanting, I bought a few twink items, and still came out 100G ahead of where I started. (and she isn't even high enough level to get a horse yet).
#8 May 09 2008 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Kelnoen the Ludicrous wrote:


The table below shows what mats you need for 1-375 using the most economical recipes:


Great list, but just wanted to point out that it's only going to take you to 300, not 375.
#9 May 10 2008 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Its funny...I was thinking about dropping enchanting for engineering! LOL! I want a copter! :D






Edited, May 10th 2008 1:41pm by Thamelas
#10 May 13 2008 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Guys,

Just to debrief you after taking your good advise.

I followed the stickied guide (which is excellent). Just varied a tiny bit, using a formula using more white components and less green ones in the early levels based on what I could DE.

I must say I had lots of the white / green high end components since a friend of mine had been DEing my lvl 70 drops for a while (had 420 arcane dust and 70 greater planar essence, if this is the right name).

It took me about 6 hours and it cost me about 1k to powerlevel to 365 enchanting, where I decided to stop (I just needed 360 for my ring enchants).

All in all, it has been fun, quick and relatively cheap. Thanks to your good advise, thanks a lot.

nostra
#11 May 13 2008 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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nostraaa wrote:
Guys,

Just to debrief you after taking your good advise.

I followed the stickied guide (which is excellent). Just varied a tiny bit, using a formula using more white components and less green ones in the early levels based on what I could DE.

I must say I had lots of the white / green high end components since a friend of mine had been DEing my lvl 70 drops for a while (had 420 arcane dust and 70 greater planar essence, if this is the right name).

It took me about 6 hours and it cost me about 1k to powerlevel to 365 enchanting, where I decided to stop (I just needed 360 for my ring enchants).

All in all, it has been fun, quick and relatively cheap. Thanks to your good advise, thanks a lot.

nostra


Congratulations.
#12 May 13 2008 at 4:49 AM Rating: Good
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Gratz. I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you.

#13 May 15 2008 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
If you continue to disenchant for the materials necessary to get from 360-375, you'll manage the gap without touching your gold reserves. Just don't stop to figure out how much you'd have earned if you sold the mats instead of using them to skill up to cap.

It's ouch.
#14 May 15 2008 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that I'll get to 375 very easily and without spending a penny. Quite to the contrary.

I went to 365 just enchanting stuff for myself. And I still have several orange receipes that people want. I've just made the powerstrike (I think this is the name) gloves enchant and earned 10 gold on that enchant (which also gave me a skillup).

It looks like I'll be at 375 soon and without too much trouble. My only problem now is that I don't have any of the "sexy" enchant, like mongoose or + 20 agi.

But I'm not up for a crusade to get them. I'm doing heroic dungeons anyway for the badges, so I might get better enchants with some luck and, if not, I don't really care. All I really needed was:
1) 360 enchant (for my +2 weapon damage ring enchant)
2) being able to disenchant epic drops during heroic dungeons.

I can do both, I'm a happy man. Enchanting has been a blast so far and it seems it'll only get better and better.

nostra

N.B. I have not dropped engineering but mining (since I have another lvl 70 miner) so I can still fool around with my engineering toys.
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