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#27 May 31 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
Is there a way to tweak auctioneer's scanned values to ignore outliers? For example, large prismatics are 20g each, but there's 10 up for 400 and one for 500 gold that have bumped it's addumed price to 25g. That throws my scans off.

I tweak by changing the weights in Enchantrix.


I didn't think of looking there, thanks. Instead of tweaking weights I used the Fixed Values section. An easy pick and choose on the real problem items (large prismatic, and nexus crystals) and auctioneer is close enough on the rest that a profit is a profit.

I was also a bit >more< worried when my first run seemed to have a 50% loss, but I forgot that most of the items were bids, not buyouts. That will cover that.
#28 Jun 01 2008 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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I am still up in the air on if I like this way better than percentless.

Pros: I am bidding on a ton of stuff that I wouldn't normally see without running a bidbroker list in addition to my percentless. It is also a lot faster than running the list and shift clicking everything.

Cons: My mailbox is still full of gold when I got on, but it is now mostly my own gold from being outbid rather than sales.

It seems it is choosing bid over buyout on a lot of stuff, which is good since it increases profit, but it also leaves you wide open to lose the item all together.

I am going to try it out for about a week and see how it works out.
#29 Jun 01 2008 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
AtrophyGFour wrote:
It seems it is choosing bid over buyout on a lot of stuff, which is good since it increases profit, but it also leaves you wide open to lose the item all together.


I don't believe this is true. After doing your scan with Bottom Scanner, do a percentless listing using the same percentage. See if it offers a bunch of buys you missed. In my case it did not.

I love the new method. If you use a mailbox addon to open all messages, the bid returns are no trouble at all. I love having bids in on several hundred items at any time, and successful bids giving me a larger, more profitable inventory of mats up for sale.
#30 Jun 01 2008 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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I will have to check it out. You might very well be right. The scan I did while posting net me about 25 items. The few I had done before had only grabbed a couple items. I guess the AH was just dry the other times. I will run a list after the next scan and see what happens.
#31 Jun 01 2008 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Where can I get a mailbox addon? I think I heard one called postal but I checked www.curse.com and could not find it. Opening up all those outbid messages is too cumbersome.
#32 Jun 02 2008 at 2:35 AM Rating: Good
Jedius wrote:
Where can I get a mailbox addon? I think I heard one called postal but I checked www.curse.com and could not find it. Opening up all those outbid messages is too cumbersome.


Postal is an Ace addon. It's description can be found at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Postal .

As an Ace Addon, the preferred method of installation is to use the wowace updater available here:
http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater
I install my addons with externals.

Other addons may also work, but this is the one I use.

When you combine the Open All mail button from Postal with the Enchantrix Automation option, you sit at the mailbox and just click yes disenchant as items pop into your bag. It doesn't get any easier.

Since the mail system only loads up so many items in the mailbox at a time, you must get mail several times once you start having hundreds of items to open. I currently have about 1300g worth of mats up for auction, and several hundred bids active. It's a lot more fun than missing out on all those bids with old percentless method.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2008 8:38am by dadanox
#33 Jun 02 2008 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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You can also check out the Ace mod Bulk2Inbox, which is the one I use. Puts a little take all button at the bottom of the mailbox. Also gives you a window with a list of all the items in there, and the option to take all, all items or all money.

And as dadanox mentioned, you can only veiw 50 mail at a time, so you will have to empty the box, close it, DE what you got and/or wait a few seconds and then open the mail again for the next batch.

I also agree it is great to get all those bids in as well. Rate up for the OP, although at this point it doesn't do much. ;-)
#34 Jun 02 2008 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I use CT_MailMod. It seems like it's the same as the others posted above. Try them out and see which you like.

CT has a 'select all' buttn and then you can 'open selected'. Works perfectly fine (and quickly), though I do tend to lose non AH mail in the flurry.
#35 Jun 03 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
I have been using Postal and the handy thing about it is that when you close the mailbox, it sums up how much you just removed :)
#36 Jun 04 2008 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
Woot.

Awesome guide.

Thanks!
#37 Jun 04 2008 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
What does "minimum discount" mean? The help in-game wasn't very useful.
#38 Jun 05 2008 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
Whoa. I decided to try enchanting just the other nite. I've been using enchantrix to level, and have spent a bit of cash on leveling, so I figured I wouldn't level anymore until I get a bigger reserve of cash. Then I read this. Wow.

This guide is teh sex. :)

Thanks!
Trill
#39 Jun 05 2008 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
What does "minimum discount" mean? The help in-game wasn't very useful.


The difference between the amount the mats should be worth, and the price you can acquire the weapon or armor for. 50% is a good starting point. A higher number will get you fewer items of higher percentage profit. A lower number will get you more items with less percentage profit.
#40 Jun 05 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:

The difference between the amount the mats should be worth, and the price you can acquire the weapon or armor for. 50% is a good starting point. A higher number will get you fewer items of higher percentage profit. A lower number will get you more items with less percentage profit.


I think that about sums it up.

You can also set a low discount rate (say 10%) but increase the enchanting level required (to 300) and focus only on higher end items that are more expensive, but have a higher gold profit (that's a lower percentage). I don't mind getting a 10% profit on 20g spent because that's still 2g profit. It's better than 100% profit spent on a 25s item.
#41 Aug 03 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Default
Cool, i've done something like this before, and it works great, I got around 3k in maybe 2 weeks from doing no dailys or any farming!
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