I once again find myself bored and wanting to level an alt. This time I've decided to brush off my long unused level 30 shaman. Currently she has mining and skinning but I'm thinking of dropping skinning and taking up either jewelcrafting or engineering. I already know about engineering (I have another engineer already) but I know very little about jewelcrafting.
That brings me back to my original question. What exactly are the ups and downs of jewelcrafting? I know that they can make some jewelery and trinkets and cut gems, but how useful is that really? Are the rings/necklaces/trinkets actually worth using? Does cutting gems myself do anything for me over buying from the AH? Will I go broke leveling it and having to buy what looks like 9346528345 different patterns?
Any info or advice would be much appreciated.
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Honestly, JC is nice for the epic gems you can craft yourself from blues(though they're Unique-Equipped) and the trinkets certainly aren't bad, but at the end of the day, they aren't a huge benefit. The mats cost of leveling is huge(on par with engineering), but you get prospecting, which is nice and can make you some decent money from, so it can be worth it. The patterns are indeed very expensive, and the only reason(as a jewelcrafter myself) I can see to choose JC over Engineering is for the purpose of having a JC available when you or someone you know needs one.
For those who master the market, high-end Jewelcrafting can be incredibly profitable. Also, the BOP epic gems give Jewelcrafters a tiny edge over others with endgame gear; many of the most dedicated Arena players are Enchanting/Jewelcrafting for the ring enchants and BOP gems.
Since you can simply buy the BoE rings, etc. that Jewelcrafters produce on the AH, often for low prices from people leveling the profession, it doesn’t offer much benefit to people before endgame. The midlevel BoP trinkets are handy, however. The endgame BoP trinkets are nice but easily replaceable.
Since you can simply buy the BoE rings, etc. that Jewelcrafters produce on the AH, often for low prices from people leveling the profession, it doesn’t offer much benefit to people before endgame. The midlevel BoP trinkets are handy, however. The endgame BoP trinkets are nice but easily replaceable.
Although my jeweller is still only low level at level 37 she still can make stuff above her level and i can still make a decent profit most days as i see what is being sold and try to level by filling any gaps in the market , it takes me longer than some trades as i will wait for the others that are power levelling to sell their underpriced stuff ( or my enchanter buys it to disenchant and sell the stuff i do not need ) it all depends on what you want from it , i think for me there is not a trade i cannot make a profit from , admittedly perhaps not as high as some others but still fun to learn .
If you're going JC, keep the mining. A lot of your designs require ore or bars of various types, plus you can prospect ore to get the gems you need. Later on, you can prospect adamantite for better gems, with a chance at a blue.
On my server, the Star Ruby is currently on AH for 70g. Don't know why, unless it's needed for new Arena Season reward sockets. Talasite is low at 5g a piece. The others are all in the 30g range.
And, with 2.4.3, they brought the green gems back to the mining nodes. Yay !
On my server, the Star Ruby is currently on AH for 70g. Don't know why, unless it's needed for new Arena Season reward sockets. Talasite is low at 5g a piece. The others are all in the 30g range.
And, with 2.4.3, they brought the green gems back to the mining nodes. Yay !
I think you mean Living Ruby. They are what healing gems are used for so big demand, and sometimes the supply is poor.
Drop rate on Living Ruby seems to be lower than the others, despite the stats saying there's an even chance of any color. The red gems for healing and agility are always in high demand.
High demand and low supply equals high prices.
Now if they'd only make Talasite worth something. I usually end up vendoring Talasite because it's not worth the trouble of trying to sell the raw gems or the cuts.
OP - If you decide to level JC, follow a guide like this one at Lootables.com. It will make it a lot more efficient and also help you plan ahead and stockpile mats.
Edited, Jul 24th 2008 10:27am by azwing
High demand and low supply equals high prices.
Now if they'd only make Talasite worth something. I usually end up vendoring Talasite because it's not worth the trouble of trying to sell the raw gems or the cuts.
OP - If you decide to level JC, follow a guide like this one at Lootables.com. It will make it a lot more efficient and also help you plan ahead and stockpile mats.
Edited, Jul 24th 2008 10:27am by azwing
Good catch, Alcattle, I did mean the Living Ruby. If I could get 70g for a Star Ruby I'd have a vacation home on the Overlook Cliffs by now. :)
My take on jewelcrafting and repeating some of what was said above:
JC is a cash cow. However, this profession is definitley a "takes money to make money" venture. And involves active participation/working knowlegde of the auction house.
Materials to level to 375 are expensive (at least on my server). If you mine your own, it's a cheaper way to go (both for the ores/bars required and prospecting for gems). Then again, mining (and selling the ore) by itself is a cash cow.
But if you roll over some of your mining profits into purchasing desired JC patterns (gem cuts related to pvp always sell well on my server), you can quickly start generating a positive cash flow.
What sells well is definitely server specific so you'll need to check out your AH. Look at the price margin between cut and uncut gems. Then for those with the highest margin, check to see if there are any recipes available for that cut (usually for rare only. most uncommon are available from trainer and most epic are available from SSO). There are profits to be made in each of the quality groups (uncommon, rare and epic)(you can also profit with meta gems too).
It helps if you already have a bankroll of funds to grab a few widely used rare cuts but not necessary. It will just help you make money faster.
For epic cuts, you'll need SSO rep and a little bit of money for the patterns. Again on my server (your mileage may vary), people spam trade "WTB, uncut epic gems, 200g" then cut and sell on the ah for 250-325.
PVP Edge:
If PVP is your thing, this is almost mandatory. The bonus points to the self only gems are great.
Trinkets
The epic spellcaster trinket is huge and the epic melee trinket as well. If you don't raid, these are some of the best trinkets available for the least effort (materials aside). (PVP JC stealthers get a bonus win for the melee trinket).
Anyway, I like JC for making gold. A quick scan of the AH in the morning/night for cheap ore or cheap rare gems gets me my base materials (I do not have mining/ have engineering instead). Then take a quick look at what cut gems are listed. Then cut gems & post on the AH for those that are under represented or over priced. Easy money once you have a few cuts (and that's all you really need).
JC is a cash cow. However, this profession is definitley a "takes money to make money" venture. And involves active participation/working knowlegde of the auction house.
Materials to level to 375 are expensive (at least on my server). If you mine your own, it's a cheaper way to go (both for the ores/bars required and prospecting for gems). Then again, mining (and selling the ore) by itself is a cash cow.
But if you roll over some of your mining profits into purchasing desired JC patterns (gem cuts related to pvp always sell well on my server), you can quickly start generating a positive cash flow.
What sells well is definitely server specific so you'll need to check out your AH. Look at the price margin between cut and uncut gems. Then for those with the highest margin, check to see if there are any recipes available for that cut (usually for rare only. most uncommon are available from trainer and most epic are available from SSO). There are profits to be made in each of the quality groups (uncommon, rare and epic)(you can also profit with meta gems too).
It helps if you already have a bankroll of funds to grab a few widely used rare cuts but not necessary. It will just help you make money faster.
For epic cuts, you'll need SSO rep and a little bit of money for the patterns. Again on my server (your mileage may vary), people spam trade "WTB, uncut epic gems, 200g" then cut and sell on the ah for 250-325.
PVP Edge:
If PVP is your thing, this is almost mandatory. The bonus points to the self only gems are great.
Trinkets
The epic spellcaster trinket is huge and the epic melee trinket as well. If you don't raid, these are some of the best trinkets available for the least effort (materials aside). (PVP JC stealthers get a bonus win for the melee trinket).
Anyway, I like JC for making gold. A quick scan of the AH in the morning/night for cheap ore or cheap rare gems gets me my base materials (I do not have mining/ have engineering instead). Then take a quick look at what cut gems are listed. Then cut gems & post on the AH for those that are under represented or over priced. Easy money once you have a few cuts (and that's all you really need).
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I actually really (sadly) enjoyed leveling JC, yes, it's got to be one of the biggest cash drains while leveling, but so are many of the primary professions, at least JC has a few rare low level designs that sell quite well on AH to negate some of the gold loss (eg, golden ring of power, truesilver commanders ring, gem studded band, sapphire signet.)
Trinkets that are extremely rare to find at lower levels are easily made as a JC, the earliest being at level 35.
You'll probably find yourself changing your jewelry more often than you do your clothes being a JC and leveling as you go along, and if anything like me, determined to get that next level just to wear what you crafted earlier.
The other benefit of JC is that there is quite a good variety of designs available for each level bracket, so it doesn't matter what your class is, there will be something that you can craft and use.
And at 70, I really don't know anyone at 70 with a cash flow problem so buying those designs off AH isn't a huge drama (and on my server getting cheaper all the time) and the gains made from selling the cut gems and in tips, soon makes that gold back.
I found leveling JC from about 235-300 to be the hardest, most time consuming and the most expensive because the designs are quite mats intensive. Thankfully because the greens are now able to be mined again, 300-375 is relatively easy.
Also with the new trinkets added to Sunwell at exalted, you wont find much better than them.
My JC is definitely my money earner, and have used to her to fund my alts to 70 and their various professions to 375.
Trinkets that are extremely rare to find at lower levels are easily made as a JC, the earliest being at level 35.
You'll probably find yourself changing your jewelry more often than you do your clothes being a JC and leveling as you go along, and if anything like me, determined to get that next level just to wear what you crafted earlier.
The other benefit of JC is that there is quite a good variety of designs available for each level bracket, so it doesn't matter what your class is, there will be something that you can craft and use.
And at 70, I really don't know anyone at 70 with a cash flow problem so buying those designs off AH isn't a huge drama (and on my server getting cheaper all the time) and the gains made from selling the cut gems and in tips, soon makes that gold back.
I found leveling JC from about 235-300 to be the hardest, most time consuming and the most expensive because the designs are quite mats intensive. Thankfully because the greens are now able to be mined again, 300-375 is relatively easy.
Also with the new trinkets added to Sunwell at exalted, you wont find much better than them.
My JC is definitely my money earner, and have used to her to fund my alts to 70 and their various professions to 375.
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Lady K,
I initially took JC as I thought that it would be a cash cow later on with the jewel cutting.....and from all the trade chat on my server, I may have been right. The problem i have found with this, and as almost every other reply has stated, it is very resourse and cash intensive. My mage was also a skinner/miner and is now a JC/miner. I also have a high level main that mines and I do farming runs for ore with him for two reasons — 1. ore for prospecting and 2. gems/ore/bars as raw material to skill-up.
To be honest with myself, even though I found out that JC was a money pit, it didn't stop me from continuing on with it. I have had to have breaks from skilling it to allow me to get more money and materials I need; but this just takes time away from questing, no matter what toon I use. (Everything has its down side, can't win at everything!) I have kept it up despite the down-side as I am having heaps of fun creating items, gain skill and heading back to the trainer to see what I can learn next. I used to check out what I could get next and at what level on this site, on one of the numerious guides out there or by seeing the unavailable items at the trainer; but now I don't and just check every 5 skill levels. Sounds lame, but I get a kick out of discovering that I can learn a new design and what it does. As a result, I am probably skilling much slower than a guide (and way more expensively), but it brings back the excitement factor to the game.
Good hunting/killing/mauling/mining/crafting.
Oz — Lvl 62 NE Hunter
Cris — Lvl 41 H Mage
(and several otheres I dont play much)
Edited, Aug 4th 2008 10:00pm by Oztopher
I initially took JC as I thought that it would be a cash cow later on with the jewel cutting.....and from all the trade chat on my server, I may have been right. The problem i have found with this, and as almost every other reply has stated, it is very resourse and cash intensive. My mage was also a skinner/miner and is now a JC/miner. I also have a high level main that mines and I do farming runs for ore with him for two reasons — 1. ore for prospecting and 2. gems/ore/bars as raw material to skill-up.
To be honest with myself, even though I found out that JC was a money pit, it didn't stop me from continuing on with it. I have had to have breaks from skilling it to allow me to get more money and materials I need; but this just takes time away from questing, no matter what toon I use. (Everything has its down side, can't win at everything!) I have kept it up despite the down-side as I am having heaps of fun creating items, gain skill and heading back to the trainer to see what I can learn next. I used to check out what I could get next and at what level on this site, on one of the numerious guides out there or by seeing the unavailable items at the trainer; but now I don't and just check every 5 skill levels. Sounds lame, but I get a kick out of discovering that I can learn a new design and what it does. As a result, I am probably skilling much slower than a guide (and way more expensively), but it brings back the excitement factor to the game.
Good hunting/killing/mauling/mining/crafting.
Oz — Lvl 62 NE Hunter
Cris — Lvl 41 H Mage
(and several otheres I dont play much)
Edited, Aug 4th 2008 10:00pm by Oztopher
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