(BS in Wrath) No BoP Epics Planned...Follow

Sounds like a good thing to me - means that you can now sell your skill to others, either by doing the combines for fees or putting finished epics onto the AH.

As stated, if there are no BoP epics, what's the point of actually being a BS? Unless some BS patterns drop in Raids that only your guild has accomplished and you have the only chance of getting said recipe, why in the hell become one? Unless the supply of mats is much greater than the demand where you can actually make a profit from being a crafter, you're simply losing out of having another gathering profession and more golds. With the added removal of sharpening stones, the profit options become even less.

I'll seriously have to reconsider my pally's BS profession if this goes through.

Edit: Even if you can make a profit from actually being a crafter, you can harvest your own mats with the gathering profession and simply tip someone to do the work. Really not worth the gigantic cost of leveling up BS anymore, IMO.

Edited, Nov 6th 2008 2:24pm by baveux

There is no benefit/reward to being an actual craftsman other than the joy of crafting itself anymore. Money IS an issue for everyone in the game. Why not make more of it by picking up raw materials and selling them to craftsman who so far, make items and sell them for a lower price than the materials cost? Oh yeah, and you get benefits from gathering professions now as well. Some extra HoT/Stam/Crit chance anyone? Don't mind if I do!

I understand the pretense that "this will be better for everyone" but really, I think it'll help everyone else but the crafters. Non-crafters now get to enjoy dual gathering professions(more golds), all the same gear, plus the benefits of said gathering professions. BSers get to craft things and sell them, hopefully for a profit or tip(more gold).

It used to be that it cost gold to be able to make yourself better quality items than everyone else. For people thinking of taking up crafting now, what's the point of spending thousands(yes, thousands) of gold just to level a craft that will give you no additional benefits?



Edited, Nov 6th 2008 4:48pm by baveux

If that's how you feel, then why are you complaining? You obviously don't enjoy crafting for the sake of crafting. Now you don't have to. I'm still confused as to why you're complaining. People who enjoy crafting will still craft...and enjoy it. It doesn't affect them. It's not like the BoP items made them any extra money anyway. Plus, if you're having issues with money, then you're doing something wrong. There is way too much money to be had in this game - even outside of "gathering".



Not really. Most crafted gear was replacable, save a few items. Plus, you would only get that one or two pieces. Now, you get more pieces. So many people were complaining that they had to level a useless craft for a single BoP that they would eventually replace. Now, people are complaining that they don't have to. This is the standard "can't please everyone".

The point is probably that most crafters will now craft because they like it. They'll take a gathering and crafting profession, and it'll cost them minimal gold to level. Just like a lot did before. The only people that spent "thousands" of actual gold were people power leveling crafts for a single BoP. Essentially spending thousands of gold for that BoP item, and never using the skill beyond that. Now, they don't have to.

I wonder if this will actually decrease the market for mats now. Most of those mats were selling for so much money since you had a lot of people powerleveling.



I have no idea. From Blizzard's statement, it sure seems like they will be doing this. But I don't have any confirmation.

From your quote:


Edited, Nov 7th 2008 9:06am by YJMark

Edited, Nov 7th 2008 9:07am by YJMark

Again? You mean "for the first time". The main reason that crafters are money losers is that they have to make a lot of the same stuff to level the skill. That's the glut that keeps crafters from making gold, not the cost of mats.

Baveux is correct in stating that crafting should be done for the pleasure derived from making something, and not from a profit motive. Stating that will not necessarily create more gatherers, but it will turn the smart players into gatherers. The dumb ones will have to be satisfied with "the joy of crafting" and remain poorer than the gatherers.