Game Patch Info For Dec. 5th

We had a few changes to go along with the Bard and Tradeskill item updates. Here are the specifics: 12/05/03 Plate Item Change: Several pieces of Bard armor conformed to the Tank Plate standard and the AC was quite out of line with what was intended. This problem stems from confusion over Bards from EQ on the PC (where Bards wear plate). To correct this we have made changes to the following items: Tradeskill crafted Plate armors are no longer Bard wearable. The following items have been changed to be No Trade. These item no longer drop in game. Changed versions of these items replace their former drop locations with items that are no longer Bard useable: Forestal Greaves, Gauntlets Helm and Breastplate Coldsteel Bracers, Helm, Boots, Breastplate, Gauntlets and Greaves Iron Krombak Helm and Bracers Fired Clay Breastplate, Bracers, Greaves and Helm Tae Ew Banded Helm, Tunic, Greaves, Boots Gauntlets and Bracers Cazicite Crusader Kite, Bracers, Breastplate, Greaves and Helm Tree Burning Gauntlets, Cloudsong Breastplate, canary leggings, rusty platemail bracers, truesteel helm, acid etched bracers, lightfire greaves, antique breastplate, riveted barbute, ironclad boots, runic plated belt, Reinforced Krombak Shield, Battered Krombak Shield, Gauntlets of Kromise Might, Quartzite Tae Ew Bracers, opaque gauntlets, rathesteel plated bracers, dragonbone barbute, serrated chestplate Tradeskills: Due to the nature in which HoT and PoT stack, the tradeskill crafted items that have these effects were not desirable over other items found in the game. To make them more attractive, we have removed these effects and changed the stats of the jewelry crafting products made from: Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, Star Ruby, Fire Emerald, Black Sapphire, Diamond, and Blue Diamond. Class Mastery: Necromancer Class Mastery Unholy sacrament corrected to upgrade the lvl 55 pet Geomancer Mage Mastery now requires Geomancy 5 Paladin Glorious Incite and Goad now have a CHA modifier to mach the other abilities in this line Raised Warrior Controlled Defensive and Offensive lines to have a larger modification due to high WIS Corrected Rogue Mug 1 and Mug 2 overwriting the wrong abilities. Abilities: Rogue spell scroll, Blighted Night, has been changed to a level 54 scroll as was originally intended. The level 51 Rogue scroll, Gymnast's Acuity, drops in game and functions properly as it always has. Enchanter Soothing Visage now L46 spell Level 60 shaman pet's power cost revised Wizard scroll Odus Portal now level 57 Items: Whale Hide Gloves now properly equip in the hand slot Made Fathom Guardian Amulet equipable Alchemist level 46 scrolls will now drop correctly Rhino Horn Axe of Lightning proc no longer scales with level and is set at 150 damage Fathom Guardian ring, Sandstone Shield and Spellbreaker Amulet now have appropriate stats for their rarity and level Small ornate pauldrons are no longer ogre wearable Scorpion Ring has been changed to work like a gem, has 99 charges and cures some poisons Quests: Level 37 side quests will now properly return the spell Frosty Mixture to Alchemists. Alchemists who had previously done this quest and not received their reward should visit Min Gyrind in Oasis and dig at "X marks the spot" The gargoyle statue guardian for the level 53 Odus side quest now drops the statue 100% of the time Corrected Level 20 Alchemist Elf reward NPCs: Added a banker and a blacksmith to Stone of Morthalis Waysender Yuresh in Arcadin now sends good aligned characters to a revised location in Stone of Morthalis Ratmen in South Islands treasure drops are less frequent to be in line with monsters of that difficulty

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bah
# Dec 11 2003 at 3:44 PM Rating: Default
I dont know but if you are going to NERF an entire class, why not get rid of halfling clerics! lol! :D
hey hag, u get?
# Dec 11 2003 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
hey hag, i mailed u at my home pcstuff about the zones, that was a week or 2 ago id say. u ever get them? and if so, about haw long does it take to update the stuff? (i dont log in my accont here unless im at home, wich im not)



Condamor, some delf warrior.
RE: hey hag, u get?
# Dec 11 2003 at 9:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry about not updating the map, i've been busy with family stuff and helping with the FFXI site, ill get to it, I promise :)
RE: hey hag, u get?
# Dec 12 2003 at 10:39 AM Rating: Default
ahhhhh i understand. just wanted 2 make sure u got (: no need 2 apologize thought... thanks!





Condamor, the guy whos to lazy to log in right now...
Dominant
# Dec 08 2003 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
I dont really get the justification behind ANY of these updates. How is HP/POW+ more desirable than HoT or PoT? The way I see it, the more your max HP/POW, the longer it takes to regen... And, although I'm a warrior, I don't get the point of making plate armor unequippable for bards; they were suitable for almost any task. Now bards are just crap (except for mana regen). Since they don't do as much dmg as monks and rogues, plate armor was their up on em. But now that even warriors need WIS to get a larger taunt range...wtf? Luckily, even though I didn't know about this update until it happened, I had my Tree Burning Gauntlets up for auction. I think the worst thing besides all the no trade items is the lack of HoT/PoT.
RE: Dominant
# Dec 15 2003 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
Actually changing the hot or pot to hp/ pow is a better move. Seeing how hot/ pot dont stack, but rather takes ur largest additive and a fraction of the smaller ones, ur hot/ pot would only be slightly larger than ur largest adder. However with hp/ pow, the more u have, the higher ur natural regen factors are. I beleive for every 50 points of hp/ pow u add 1 to hot/ pot, and that does stack in both areas, the hp/pow buff and the hot/pot. So changing hot/pot to hp/pow was a way better move.

Zanlabik
Gnome Warrior
Lvl 43
Heroes, Healers, and Helpers
Ferran's Hope
RE: Dominant
# Dec 11 2003 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
These is a noob question but wut the f#$$ is HOT and POT
RE: Dominant
# Dec 12 2003 at 9:00 AM Rating: Default
hot is heal over time and it would add to what you regain naturally without a heal, so if you naturally healed 30 a click and had a 8 HOT item you would heal for 38 instead. Pot does the same thing except for power
RE: Dominant
# Dec 11 2003 at 9:41 PM Rating: Default
These is a noob question but wut the f#$$ is HOT and POT
idk.....
# Dec 08 2003 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
u really think the SOE pple read this stuff? (i have no idea if they do or dont). and thats not all. if u go 2 everquestonlineadventures.com , (stastion.con also, i think) theyare thinking about makin the repairs go up for crafted stuff depending on the rareity of the stuff there made with. and in turn raising the amount u sell it for to merchents. point is, these ****** need to stop bbein ***** snd IMPROVE the game. not deprove it like when they made the warriors call to spells just max hp buff instead of current/max hp buff. i dont tink they can ***** up healers ne, but 9i fell they too, ae next... and why the *** do warrios buffs (such as call to war) differ depending on their wisdom? wtf is that???
RE: idk.....
# Dec 08 2003 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
heehee i made mistakes up there o well (:
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 08 2003 at 10:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) heehee i made mistakes up there o well (:
RE: NO
# Dec 07 2003 at 2:58 AM Rating: Good
Some people dont have access to a PC as much as others, as was stated they should of communicated it better like putting it on the news screen when you are logging on. If it wernt for a grp I joined up with the night before the update I wouldnt of even known about the stupid update.

Antique BP is a dam good bp thats pretty easy to get ahold of tho im sure there are a few things better than it but I used it till lv 33-35.

I just think that if they didnt want bards to wear plate as was stated before they should of done something a LONG time ago instead of doin it when alot of people on now are lv 40+ like I am (51) so since I wanted some armour that I could solo with with good AC and pretty good stats I could of just been told there WASNT ANY! Stead of wasting 2.5mil on CS. I swear tho they have better do something for bards to make up for this *****-up or there will be alot of hate mail (if there isnt enough already), I mean were decent in many things so why would they strip us of armour? Its not like we can go out and freakin tank Lord C or something (was fun trying tho hehe). Give us more attacks or as was stated above make Sta and Dex our main stats? Idk just SOMETHING! stead of makin us panzys when we get hit (Last thing I want is to die from a quad =/).

Anywho thats my 2 cents...not that it will matter...

PS. Lil advice Dev's Your nerfing is gettin worse and worse...stop ******** with charecters or your gonna see a big drop in your paychecks ;)
RE: NO
# Dec 08 2003 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
Yea here goes my 2 cents too.....

I work for a living, play this for fun. Now this is work too. Removing our armor, changinging status of gems, raising our repair costs. The life and fun is being drained from the game. I pay for this Service, but I don't have a choice in what is happening? Look SOE, I think you should listen to your customers and do what's right by them. Most of these changes are based on your decisions and have nothing to do with forwarding the game. Gamers we need to stick together and let SOE know this or any change should be to improve game play and by so the enjoyment of the game. We pay for this service, so we need to act together in this. Thanks for the rant.

P.S. Flame away if you wish
stunt they pulled
# Dec 06 2003 at 5:58 PM Rating: Excellent
i can't believe they pulled such a stunt... they removed hot and pot from all my items and replaced it with hp up and pow up.. what a waste... i just upgraded my new lev 28 rouge with hot jewlry and now all that money was wasted
PoT
# Dec 06 2003 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
23 posts
Well i see im the only one who wants to complain about SOE nerfing casters again...Along with changing bards to not wear plate they also changed the effects that emeralds have when crafted...they were PoT and were awesome...i spent alot of tunar to get a few PoT items crafted and now all they are is power items...this suxx ...just because only a few like the PoT items they change it to make it more desireable??!!!??! So what...atleast its an option.we can get power from other items...Just wanted vent cause it suxx thanks SOE...for nothin
RE: PoT
# Dec 06 2003 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
i agree changing the pot items for pow is stupid they already had pow increasing stuff why need more. and if most people dont wear them the crafter could always sell them like the stuff for resistances
Why tho?
# Dec 06 2003 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
Why not let Bards wear plate armor? AFter all, they are known as JOATs (Jack of All Trades). They heal, mana regen, decent melee, w/ plate they can tank a few mobs etc etc. They should be able to wear plate.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 06 2003 at 10:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMFG U IDIOTS --- GET A LIFE OR A GIRFRIEND --- THIS IS JUST A GAME!!!! LMFAO !!!!
RE: GIVE IT A REST
# Dec 06 2003 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
first of all this hasnt anything to do with not having a life, we are venting frustation over a nerf on bards for a reason that does not make any logical reason, and FYI venting is part of life. And i am sure if they nerfed your char this late in the game you would wine more then we are
ASSH*les
# Dec 05 2003 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
ok guys thanks for totally F**king up the bard!!, why dont you dik wads mind your own business and stop nerfing everythiing!!
RE: ASSH*les
# Dec 05 2003 at 8:46 PM Rating: Default
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! how the f*&%# do they expect me to solo now??? HMMM???I just spent over 50k on a truesteel helm and an antique bp!!now thats not alot of money for me but.....admires his 2 horned ripper and AoK,nevermind that,this screws us more than it would first appear.I am outraged and super mad that I have this no trade crap that I would have sold in 5 or so levels...what next?? well at any rate I'm glad I didnt buy a cloudsong bp...THANKS ALOT!!!! (goes to play his mage while shaking his head)
what
# Dec 05 2003 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
this is a bit idiotic making stuff such as cs no trade it hurts the tanks more then bards, as a bard i found much better stuff, they may have less ac but is much better for my stats.

But, what i think is worst is the fact that it has been so long to make this choice, i mean it is not like we just started playing this game, in cluding the original beta eqoa should be close to a year old why such a delay if they never intended bards to wear plate. BTW on my cloud song it is still tradeable but they made it look like chain armor and nerfed the ac.

And bards have been wearing plate for quite a while, and it may give them a slight advantage to other melee's but no that much since bards do not have the destructive power of other melees being the only one that doesnt have dex as a power pool, and dont get as many attacking abilities to put on our belt, just face it our dot sux, and we get one attack every 10 lvls.

I dont understand why they say bards are a mix of all classes and then say we are suppose to be melee only and make us a weak melee. I mean if they want us to be melees make us hit harder and give dex as a power pool like the other melees, but if they want us to be a jack of all trade that would mean we get weaker attacks then other melee's but stronger then the other classes, thx to cms our heals arnt totally useless if we have a good tank, but still draw aggro like crazy, we should have a couple of GOOD attack spells, and some thing from the tank class which would either be taunts or armor.

But as it is the bards only good features for our groups are our anthum buff line and our power recovery skills, and sony will nerf that as soon as enough enc complain about it.
RE: what
# Dec 06 2003 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
i agree they r idiots 4 @#$%^&* up the plate stuff and stuff like that 4 bards but bards have their songs n their power regen song will never b worse then encs, i have a enc and the power regen is only good enough for them, if they took the bard regen (wich they wont) bards would b useless. and if bards got taunt, then wtf would ne1 want with tanks? they dont need taunt, and rangers dont need it in 500 years (EQPC). its just these gay *** @#$%^& dev's r dumasses. they really really r.
RE: what
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:10 PM Rating: Default
Accually the change does not hurt Tanks very much. You see, these items are being replaced with non-bard versions. So, the new items won't be nerfed in stats or AC, only in equipablity.

I do, however, agree with the fact that bards should have some things from all classes to make them a better "Jack-of-all-trades." Perhaps, this change was a bit extreme.
RE: what
# Dec 05 2003 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
but it does hurt tank since no one can pass the older stuff out once they are done with it. so the new items will need to build in supply before they are affordable for the average tank to purchase. If you havnt notice quite a few of the cs pieces were going for under 50k now that there were several on the auction block, so it will take a while for the new armor supplies to build.
Nooooo
# Dec 05 2003 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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NOOOOO i just let my friend borrow my truesteel helm and antique breastplate now hes stuck with it foreverrrrr. grrrr
RE: Nooooo
# Dec 05 2003 at 10:21 AM Rating: Default
wow....u really like hawks. but the point is last time i checked, antique bp isnt that good.






Condamor, the guy who hates those idiots who @#$% everything on this game up
RE: Nooooo
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah Antique Breastplate isnt so great but theres nothing decent its level and nothing can match its AC till the 33 armor quests
RE: Nooooo
# Dec 06 2003 at 1:38 PM Rating: Default
yeah obtenebrate lvl 26 27 and 28, they match it if not better
RE: Nooooo
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
False, Goblin Forged Breastplate. Look it up I have one.
NO
# Dec 05 2003 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
ARRRGGGG I have been spending a ton of tunar buying up Coldsteel stuff for guild mates, now I have a bank full of No Trade Junk and no tunar to boot. THANKS for the warning GM's!
RE: NO
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:09 PM Rating: Excellent
They never should have done this to bards, now youll see as many bards as halfling clerics(i can only think of 1 halfling cleric on ppo lol)
RE: NO
# Dec 05 2003 at 8:59 AM Rating: Default
25 posts
They did warn you ahead of time. On the offical boards Bordael posted this on 12/3. It does suck though. *goes back and polishes full rubicite set.

Steelsong
Elvish Bard of the 53rd song.
Prophets of Zion (FH)
RE: NO
# Dec 05 2003 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
WOW a whole 2 days warning! I don't know about everyone else, but I can live my life on evercrack or offical boards. If they are going to make this big of a change that effects this number of people if should be communicated better. Oh by the way next time your out of town, we will give you a call at home saying your house won't be there when you get back. Thanks for letting me flame.
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