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#1 Jun 03 2008 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
Greetings, one and all. I am Bludwyng, the Sr. Wikibase Admin here at ZAM. I have been asked to give you a brief introduction to the Wikibase as I am sure you are all anxious to rack up the points for the drawings!

First of all, let me point you to the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions): http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions

The FAQ should cover the basics of how to create a link to a DB entry, and how to link an image, and how to make a link to a Standalone wikipage. Also how to make headers or make the text bold or italic.

That said, let me cover a few things with the assumption that you have NEVER seen a wiki before!

How do I start editing?

There are 2 different types of Wiki pages in a wikibase: DB Wikipages and Standalone Wikipages.

DB Wikipages are those that appear as part of the display of database-driven content. At the top of the "wikipanel" (that portion of the text that YOU can edit!) you will see a small "Edit v". The v indicates a pull-down that has some additional options, but ignore those for now. Click on the Edit to start editing.

Standalone Wikipages are entirely wiki and free-form. There is no database filling in some of the data on these pages. Just under the site-wide pulldown menus will be the Wiki menu bar. "View Edit History Media ..." etc, and this is the Edit you need to click.

Now you are in the Wiki edit window. Enter your text into the window, add an edit summary in the line below the edit window, and click Save. You can also use the Preview button to see what it will look like. If you use this, use your browser's Back button to get back to the editor!

2) What should I put in the edit window?


Just about anything! Don't worry too much about wiki formatting. Use what you know, but don't stress over it! If you know how it should look, but do not know how to format it, add {{wikify}} somewhere on the page and one of our helpful team will be along eventually to clean it up and make it look right. The most important thing here is the information, not the formatting.

Also, and this is VERY important... on Standalone Wikipages, you MUST put {{wow}} at the bottom of the page. Why? Because our wikibase has pages for ALL the games we cover, and without being in the correct category, noone will ever find your page via the Search engine! {{wow}} adds the page automatically to :Category:World of Warcraft so it can be found. DB Wikipages do this automatically so the do not need {{wow}}.

One more little note on this topic and we will move on. TRY to always write in 3rd person. Think like a reporter. Avoid words like "I" and "We". This is not intended as a blog or forum. This is the facts (and just the fact's, Ma'am) of how to do what needs to be done. Keep in impersonal.

3) So how am I gonna learn wiki markup?

The BEST way to learn is always to look. Use the Edit button on pages that are laid out well, and see how it is done. Wiki markup is, just like HTML and forum markup, just a restricted way of formating text. Almost anything you can do in HTML, you can do in wiki markup. In fact, many HTML tags (but not all!) will work in wiki. HTML tables work, for instance, but wiki markup is just a little easier to read.

4) I searched for a specific topic and did not find it. Should I just start a new page?

Before you do that, try looking around a bit for pages with a slightly different name. Avoid words like "A", "An" and "The" in your search text. If you still cannot find a page that fits what you want to write about, go right ahead and start a new one! Be sure to look for related pages and add links there, where appropriate, to point to your new page. After all, what good is all your hard work if no one ever finds it?

5) I am committed, intend to stay and help, and want to make a page about me and what I am working on. Where do I put that?

There is a special namespace, called User:, that you can use for this. My user page is at User:Bludwyng. That is the 2 square left brackets, then User:Bludwyng, then the two square right brackets. In URL format, that would be http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/User:Bludwyng

6) What are those things in double curly braces?

Those are template calls. A template is like a wiki macro. I can take a lot of wiki code that we are gonna use over and over, give it a name, and then invoke it anywhere I want it's contents to be inserted, interpreted and displayed. In essence (and here comes the techno-babble) the contents of a Template are expanded into the spot where the call appears before the wiki compiler runs, so the contents of the template act as if you had cut and pasted them into the page. There is more to it than that, but Templates are a way for the very wiki-knowledgeable to make tools that everyone can use without having to understand what it does inside. For a complete list of templates for WoW, see WoW Template Users Guide. Complete syntax instructions for the template are on the actual template page so you can follow the links on the Users Guide to see HOW to use the template, and what all the parameters mean.
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And, please feel free to contact me by pm, standard email or by posting in this forum at any time. I will try to answer any questions you have.




Edited, Jun 3rd 2008 9:47pm by Azuarc
#2 Jun 03 2008 at 5:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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bump for great justice...or something like that.
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#3 Jun 03 2008 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Leh gasp, a new admin!
#4 Jun 03 2008 at 7:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bludwyng's actually been around since about November, working on EQ2's and FFXI's wikispaces. In the last month or two, a much greater emphasis has been placed on the WoW portion to coincide with the site revamp. I started working on the wow wiki back around the same time Bludwyng started with us, but Blud has helped straighten out a lot of the things I really screwed up out of ignorance in trying to build things up in the first place.

Although my focus is going to be primarily on writing and editing the articles on the WoW portion of the wiki, Blud's the real go-to person for the technical end of things.
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#5 Jun 03 2008 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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Why do you hate Bludwyng.

Seriously I give him about 2 more months.

I hope you give him/her beer.

(I love the idea of the wiki and am glad to see it but it's so.... easy to have stuff just get so out of control. You DO know the posters on this site, right? Smiley: grin)
#6 Jun 04 2008 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Don't forget that every 100 words you add to a wiki article gets you an entry in our contest this month, so a 500 word article is worth 5 entries. Editing the wiki is the best way to get a higher percentage of winning each draw.
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#7 Jun 04 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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And before some of you conjure up bad memories of eighth grade where you had to write "300 words or more," please remember that (a) we aren't giving you a requirement for writing a lot of good content, only an incentive -- you still get one contest entry for simply adding to an article -- and (b) this post is not far from 100 words. That's all there is to getting that much content in. So if this had been a wiki article, I'd have gotten two entries. (OK, now it's 100.)
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#8 Jun 04 2008 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Why do you hate Bludwyng.

Seriously I give him about 2 more months.

I hope you give him/her beer.

(I love the idea of the wiki and am glad to see it but it's so.... easy to have stuff just get so out of control. You DO know the posters on this site, right? Smiley: grin)


LOL I assure you I am not gonna burn out in 2 months. I have been editing on Wikipedia and eq2.wikia.com since Sept '06. I had over 30,000 edits on eq2.wikia.com before I accepted the EQ2 Wikibase Admin position last september. I am not sure how many edits I have here but my output is pretty consistent. Since my promotion to ZAM Network Sr. Wikibase Admin last month I have been a "little" busier, but not by much. :)

And, yes, I have seen good edits, stupid edits, and outright vandalism. I can take it. :D

Oh, and it's "him". I am a male player, playing mostly male toons, but my EQ2 "main" is a female Fae wizard. Bludwyng was one of my lesser-used alts and I chose her as my nom de plume when I took the job here. So far my WoW count is 2 male toons and 2 female.

If I had to answer "Why?" I would have to say that, as a mature heterosexual male secure in his sexuality, I find it funny as hell to observe the way males act around what they think "might" be a grrl. :) Truly, I have learned a lot about my own behavior by realizing how the other half sees us.

Besides, most females in MMORPGs are just plain hot and if I am gonna look at a toons butt for ump-teen hours a day, I would rather look at a Blood Elf female than a male. :>


Edited, Jun 4th 2008 10:59am by Bludwyng

Edited, Jun 4th 2008 9:38pm by Bludwyng
#9 Jun 04 2008 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Guess this was the more appropriate place to post in.

Are you guys planning on rivalling WoWwiki.com? Because it'll be hell making articles not look like a complete ripoff of WoWwiki.com. They pretty much covered everything twice and then a third time just for kicks. Or is this just going to be a lite version of a wikibase?

Wouldn't it be better to direct people to WoWwiki.com then? Smiley: um
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#10 Jun 04 2008 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
Mazra wrote:
Guess this was the more appropriate place to post in.

Are you guys planning on rivalling WoWwiki.com? Because it'll be hell making articles not look like a complete ripoff of WoWwiki.com. They pretty much covered everything twice and then a third time just for kicks. Or is this just going to be a lite version of a wikibase?

Wouldn't it be better to direct people to WoWwiki.com then? Smiley: um


No, and I'll tell you why. When new content is released, WoWWiki has to manually create each and every entry for that content. Our database fills the basic information automatically, direct from the 10's of 1000's of WoWReader users. Sure, the more verbose information will lag a bit behind that, but only so far as we, the players, allow it to. Our Comments feature, below every db page, has always been THE place to find out the little tricks that the plain quest text does not tell you, but now our users can place that DIRECTLY into the page so it stays visible rather than getting lost in the longer threads.

Is there gonna be a lot of borrowing of WoWWiki content here? Probably, initially. But that is OK, we are both published under the GFDL, so as long as we credit them (see Template:WoWWiki) for what we borrow that is just fine. The real kicker is the additional tools and content here at Allakhazam, like the character profiles and item upgrades that WoWWiki cannot do because they do not have a db engine supporting their site. THAT is the point of difference. THAT is the reason to use THIS site.


Edited, Jun 4th 2008 11:47am by Bludwyng
#11 Jun 04 2008 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
And THAT is the reason we are HERE today and well said lol.
#12 Jun 04 2008 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Are you guys planning on rivalling WoWwiki.com? Because it'll be hell making articles not look like a complete ripoff of WoWwiki.com. They pretty much covered everything twice and then a third time just for kicks. Or is this just going to be a lite version of a wikibase?

Wouldn't it be better to direct people to WoWwiki.com then? Smiley: um


When I can't find something at Best Buy, the employees point me to Radioshack.
When I can't find something at Advance Auto Parts, I'm pointed to Pep Boys.
When I can't find something at Sears, they tell me to go check out some other store that they think might have that something I'm looking for.


The way I see it, the wiki portion of these pages are simply a replacement of how Allakhazam users could comment on items and quests and mobs on their respective pages.
I expect WoWWiki to cover more than Allakhazam. However, that doesn't mean that I will never use Allakhazam's database.

Also, WoWWiki, as a tertiary source, gathers its info and data from a number of other sources, and links to Allakhazam on many pages (as it does to WoWHead and Thottbot).
#13 Jun 04 2008 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
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Bludwyng wrote:
If I had to answer "Why?" I would have to say that, as a mature heterosexual male secure in his sexuality, I find it funny as hell to observe the way males act around what they think "might" be a grrl. :) Truly, I have learned a lot about my own behavior by realizing how the other half sees us.


It's even more fun the other way round. "Wait, hold on, Celcio's a chick???"

And as long as we're sharing:
Even better than that - On my first "main" toon I played a male dwarf. I don't make a point to tell or to hide my gender. To me it's a non-issue in game and I'll usually refer to players as their character gender.

I grouped consistently with 2 other players from about level 14 to 50. I hadn't known them before we just started questing together and never stopped. I remember being, oh I dunno, lvl 45 running RFK with them. They started getting all goofy at the end of the run and were (this was bizarre) acting like they were going to homosexually have their way with me in the instance.

What they didn't know was that instead of creeping me out I'm sitting there in tears laughing at what they would think if I told them I was female. So I did. It was every bit as priceless as I imagined.


ETA: Oh and I like the random insertion of wiki links into your posts. It's second nature for you by now, isn't it.




Edited, Jun 4th 2008 8:00pm by Celcio
#14 Jun 04 2008 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh and I like the random insertion of wiki links into your posts. It's second nature for you by now, isn't it.


LOL! Yeah, basically. But seriously, the older forum-posters around here think nothing of adding a link using forum-code, and since rale added some wiki-code to the forum early this year, yeah, why not use it? Especially when I am referring to something that is IN the Wikibase, here?

Hmmm... I need to get rale to add some info on what wiki-code works in Forum to the "Markup Help" page.
#15 Jun 04 2008 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Celcio's a chick?

Damn, my world just came crashing down on me.
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