I know about EQ2, but whats EQOA?

I feel that this "EQ 2" stuff is one of the worst ideas yet. Yes it might have beter graphics and stuff like that, but come one if you want to make a diffrent game CALL IT SOME THING DIFFRENT!! EQ is EQ there will never been an EQ 2 unless you have it the same as normal EQ only diffrent zones, equipment, ect.. (AKA an expansion) I personaly would be very upset if VI goes and makes another game and calles it EQ 2. First off get original and second off in ways it ruins the name EQ, it would always from there on out be "which EQ?" or "EQ original, EQOA, or EQ 2?" So i strongly disagree with EQOA and EQ 2 cause it will, even though they are diffrent groups working on them then orriginal EQ, eventualy lead to the originalEQ getting less and less atention.

This is how i feel you might feel diffrently then i do and i respect your right to feel that way.

There's only two things I dislike about the announcement so far. First is that things are breakable. This is the biggest reason that I left DAoC, because it simply sucks that you sometime have to replace every item you have... you could never have an item you could always use. If items break without it being permanent it would be kinda ok. Otherwise this alone will probably make it reason enough not to get EQ2.

Second, no more twinking. That's bad imo. One of the things that has made me stick to EQ is because it's so fun to collect and trade for items whenever you wanna start over with a new char. Though I understand the decision. But what I would rather like to see is preventing characters around 45 and under from using items, but once you have reached that it would be very annoying to get items on raids which you can't use for maybe months to come.

No more Luclin is good news. It completely destroys the atmosphere to have that sci-fi moon to travel to with aliens everywhere. It just doesn't belong to a fantasy game. Please Verant, no more sci-fi, this is fantasy!

In all though it looks very promising. Just hope, like other people said, that they don't steal too much from other games. They should stick a lot to how the current EQ is and improve it, not make everything completely new. EQ is already an obvious winning concept.

Well, I guess the good thing is that EQ2 is not coming until 2003, but lets face it, we haven't heard the real skinny from the horses mouth yet. This stuff isn't concrete. But I guess, I'll jump into the mix and say my piece as well.

Why is it good that it isn't coming til 2003? Well, some of us don't have a whole lot of money to burn, and it's gonna take some time to save up and buy a new computer in order to play this. Heh, good thing we're all addicted. Verant jacks up the system requirements, people buy new computers and the computer industry gets a small kick in the backside bus.

I just don't think I'll buy into it tho. Personally I would EQ2 to be compatible with the original. No, I'm not afraid of change or whatever, its just that when you work so frickin' hard to scratch, claw and climb to the top of the level 60 heap, when the makers of the game say, "Well, we're changing mostly everything, time to start over", its very disheartening.

Again, they are a lot of us out there who simply do not have the time or money to play more than one massive multi-player online RPG, let alone two by the same company who we all hate to love and love to hate. I'm sure for those of us who do, its gonna be something special to see. Maybe, who knows, it could suck, it could be brilliant. But for a lot of us, who feel like this game can be hard work at times, and feel so d*mn proud of what they have achieved and see Verant hinting at changing the rules, its like they aren't really listening to what the customer has to say.

I love the game. Yes, there are things that are drastically wrong with it, but there are things about the game that make us keep coming back. I hope Verant decides to integrate the two. H*ll, I always thought EQ2 should be another planet. Sure, juice up the graphics, change a few things around, go nutty, whatever. A new planet would mean totally new adventures, worlds, weapons, mobs, races, classes, whatever. I'd love to see a totally new EverQuest world. But don't just say, "Let's see, let's go nutty on ideas and keep Norrath, Norrath. What about the expansions people had fun with and haven't fully explored yet? Well, ***** Luclin, Velious and Kunark. The basic game idea is there, just totally different. Get it? Good, hope you can figure it out!" It's confusing. It would be like if you woke up and went out to your car, and saw that it was a totally different color, had 5 wheels, the steering wheel was moved to the opposite side, but the car's engine had 0 miles and could go 800 mph, but only for 12 seconds at a time every other month.

I haven't done all there is to do in the game yet, I probably never will, but now, if I chose to purchase the new game, it would be like turning my back on what I have achieved thusfar and throwing it away. But, a whole new world, a new atmosphere, totally new and fresh ideas would be great. Then, starting fresh would mean something. You could finish up the predecessor without being disappointed and embrace the heir to the throne with open arms. I wouldn't feel like I just climbed to the top of Everest only to find some 200 year old visionaire who tells me "Psst, buddy... Everest is over there".

Confused? Yup, me to.

Sorry, I'm not sold on the idea. Who is to say though? Maybe we will all buy the thing and say "EverQuest: The Ruins Of What?, The Scars Of Who?, The Shadows Of Huh? ... Planes Of Where?"

Then again, as it is looking right now, I am disappointed. I hope this really isn't what is set in stone...

That's just my opinion, I could be a Halfling.

52 Halfling Druid
47 Human Monk
26 Dark Elf Cleric

Good luck to everyone out there! Just remember, we all have a voice and if we, the consumer do or don't like what we are getting, we are the ones who can make or break a business.

"And when Alexander stood on the crest of his domain, he wept... for there were no more worlds to conquer"

EQ2 does not interest me, there ias a lot in EQ i have not done and still want to do, I dont want an easier game or more complicated game, I just Want EQ! I will never buy thi8s Product!

EQ2 does not interest me, there ias a lot in EQ i have not done and still want to do, I dont want an easier game or more complicated game, I just Want EQ! I will never buy thi8s Product!

OMFG!!! I guess the guys at Verant kind of got... uh.... ALL the ideas from Dark Age of Camelot and Shadowbane?
/rude Verant
1: Lose Brad McQuade...
2: Get rid of all the things that made you earn your identity. (Hell levels, ect.) Why don't you just hand over level 50 and the epic...
3: Blatanly copy all the aspects of your competitors. Shadowbane, DAoC, UO.....
Sorry Verant.. Luclin sucked... having story line has become a myth (not as in a mythic story line.. but the fact you actually HAD a story line to begin with.)
4: Pathetic customer service.
All reasons I say bite me...
WTS 52 woodelf ranger w/epic....NO TRADES... PST

As others have note (to no avail with the malcontented) you can only do so much with a game engine, especially one with persistant files that have to work right no matter what you do to the base engine. They can't do too much before they would cripple your character files. At some point they have to start from scratch or just add more zones with the same basic features. Doing the later is a recipie for slow death because (1) newer games will lure people away - bank on it, and (2) adding more zones with a shrinking subsrciber base is really hard for a game where grouping is so critical. Lower population density really would ***** things up. So are they taking a huge risk with this radical change - without a doubt. Would trying to nurse the current EQ along get them to the same place just a little bit slower? You betcha.

That does not mean that some of this is not extremely troubling.

(1) caravans? Is that a joke? Why would VI create a disincentive to explore their world. Makes no sense.

(2) breakable weapons? This might be OK if only player creatable stuff wears out, its good enough to make it desirable, and the mobs still have cool stuff that does not break. Pharming will be a problem only if it is easier for highly skilled characters to loot stuff that to make it. That is a VERY hard play-balancing issue and I doubt they can do it. Also, they must provide a way to monitor the weapon's condition so it doesn't break while fighting Innoruuk.

(3)houses. Blech. I have a house and its a pain in the butt to take care of. If I wanted to take care of a house and build a "community" on-line, i'd play the Sims. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. That said, they are doing it because everyone else is. This must matter to someone.

(4) Twink governor. I actually like this. EQ has become pretty tough on the new players. This will level the field a bit for them. Also, twinking still will be possible, just not quite as effective. Bravo on this one.

(5) New dying system. This looks pretty good. No more deleveling but there is still a consequence to death. And if you forget to get bound, and die on the other side of the world it is not necessary to make a 45 min. corpse run. Good feature.

(6) Eliminating Velious, Luclin, and Kunark. I'll wait and see. I worry about the lack of variety.

All and all. I will give it a try. I'll miss the current EQ though :(

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Okay, Ill admit that Ill probably buy this sooner or LATER after it comes out. Ive put a good deal of time into leveling my wizard to 51, and I dont want to have to start over. Nuf said. And I wonder if the expansions for EQ2 will be Kunark, Velious, and Luclin. That would be funny.

Ok, from reading the top few posts i think you all are complete computer addicts who have never tried much of anything as REAL ROLEPLAYING in your life.

I have played Rifts, Dungeon and Dragons, and Even Larps such as VAmpire, and i think this new method of REALISM is ******* great. Makes a charactor truely unique and defined.

Although i have several END game charactors i do dislike EQ, and wished it was more like Ashrons Call, since the leveling system allowed some people to be strong, and yet not at everything.

Having to specialize in certain things will help the game flow, and make the need for guilds and people to work together, IN real role playing NO ONE Person can max to grandmaster tailoring, smithing, pottery, jewelry craft when they are just level 1 or even just level 30, it just wont happen. Having a charactor spend 30 levels or so finally finding out what they want to do is great, lets a person actually decide what each class can do, and what each class cant do, before they are stuck with a level 56 charactor realizing, "HEY this class sucks" (MAGE) *cough* *cough* but if you ever want to play a truely better roleplaying game, look in your local phone book for gameing shops around and check out actual role playing, cause trust me when you can do anything you like, you actually have tons more fun with it.

Anyone who wants to debate on this subject saying that VI is wrong in trying to make a system better, by using the logic that EQ1 is perfect or doesnt need to be improved much, is ignorant and just wants to spend those 15hours camping a stupid spwn in OOT or SRO or LGUK for an item and get KSed constantly.

So for those of you who like regular EQ and dont want it to change, ill be that person KSing you, while on my other comp ill be becoming a unique charactor in EQ2 later, and you will be begging me to help ya when ya give in to try it, and it just wont happen.

Just my 2cp.
~Mort
ICQ- 37147336

PLEASE STOP RUINING EVERQUEST!!! all the new ideas sound like crap. You would make more money if you just left EQ how it was instead of making all these stupid expansions like EQ2!