Rumors Swirl on EQ2

In the recent EQ newsletter, Sony put in a puzzle that led to two websites: www.nektulos.com and www.wailingcaves.com. (Congratulations to the gang at the safehouse for solving the riddle). Each site brings up an image and the Nektulos one mentions an announcement coming up in May. May is of course when E3 is held. This is the biggest gaming convention of the year, and game companies typically try to save their biggest announcements for the large group of press that comes to E3 each year. So what is Sony going to announce in May? It may be something like a single player game based upon Everquest, or the release of some new zones. However, do not be surprised if it is the launch of Everquest 2. I don't have any positive information on this and am really just speculating, but since they already announced the PS2 version of the game and the Planes of Power expansion, it seems logical that this is not related to either of them. Why make a teaser for something everyone already knows about? And they have never put this type of effort into announcing free content for the game. EQ2, however, would be a huge announcement. In addition, I have been told that the latest version of PC Gamer mentions EQ2 (I have not read it -- I'll try to track down a copy). Plus, Sony has had www.everquest2.com registered for quite a while. So the announcement Sony plans to make in May could well be that they are making EQ2. Or they could just be announcing another expansion or something related to the PS2 version of the game or even something completely unrelated to Everquest. We will be in Los Angeles for E3, so as soon as we find out more, we'll let you know. In the meantime, some of our visitors managed to piece together the murky pictures you see in the two sites.
  • Wailing Caves Full Image
  • Nektulos Full Image
  • Feel free to throw in your own thoughts about what this means. UPDATE (Again): Link already dead.

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    follow this link
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
    http://forums.interealms.com/ranger/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1792
    RE: follow this link
    # Apr 23 2002 at 9:06 PM Rating: Default
    Great...

    ...but what does the rest of the article say??????!
    How bout fixin EQ
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:36 PM Rating: Default
    I would rather SOE focus all its attention on the problems with the existing game. We don't need Planes of Power, yet. We don't need EQ2. We need the existing game working as advertised. How bout a bazaar that is really a bazaar? How bout a new interface? How bout fixin the lag issues in Luclin and everywhere alse? How bout fixin all the bugs that plague everyone? How bout a legends server interface that works? In the rush to provide more and bigger and better, SOE has forgotten the original game. (or reprioritized resource to other development areas.)

    I wish they would focus on the problems at hand first.
    RE: How bout fixin EQ
    # Apr 23 2002 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
    Ahhh - I too wish we lived in this ideal world where merchants only sold things that worked as advertised :(/ The sad fact is that SOE and VI would be crushed if they tried to make good on their old promises. Upcoming games, especially Warcraft, Star Wars, and Shadowbane will seriously challege EQ. To remain on top, SOE needs some flash and EQ2 might just give the franchise the gas that it needs to stay on top while the new crop shakes out.

    Of course, doing that will mean that they will rush it out too soon AGAIN.

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    RE: How bout fixin EQ
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:42 PM Rating: Default
    agree with you and next time you poat please dont post anon like that you will take a good credit for you post i mean there is still bug on the game that need fix zone that need finish and still they got a new expansion coming and rumors on new eq2? i think that by making more bugs and making eq not work like advertised soe will make us eq players migrate to eq2 lol j/k
    eq2? what about eq?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:34 PM Rating: Default
    ok so im not that bad of a hardcore eq player but this is my cp on the matter is eq2 was to come out and be a hole brand new game with new servers will you ditch your characters on eq and move to eq2? or will you pay 12.95 extra for anotehr account for eq2? or will you even pay lets say 40 bucks for the new game? just a couple of questions

    personally i wont there is still more stuff out there that i need to see zones i never been to quest i want to complete classes that i want to play my opinion o a new eq would be that it would fail unless is just the same stuff eq is about or were it would be allowed to tranfer your current characters to the new eq2 another thing is with pop coming out will there would be more items and mobs to kill more quest i thinnk that with all the stuff verant is adding to eq as we speak very few littel people would be interested on a hole new eq2 unless like a siad above your items and characters would carry over to the new one or this eq2 would be just and add on to the current eq. just my 2cp and what i think would like to see some feedback on the questions i put on top guys thanks for you time


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    also i know that when a game gets announced for the first time it actually take more than 8 or 9 month to be rdy shoot look a neocron and shadow bane. but still lets say 2 years down the road i still think eq would be going strong there is not much to the game quest raid attain items that are uber and some other stuff along the lines.


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    RE: eq2? what about eq?
    # Apr 24 2002 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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    I will (assuming this is indeed EQ2 as I believe) maintain two accounts for a time, but if EQ original starts to die down or my interest fades (or EQ2 doesn't take off) I'd eventually close one. Just my $0.02.
    On zones...
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:21 PM Rating: Default
    I believe the riddle mentioned "lands thought explored, become anew", or something to that gist. The image of nektulos, also, seems to follow the general attributes we know nek to be--a dark, spooky forest. Therefore, we would be led to believe that this is a zone revamp of some kind--but how practicle would that be? For every character in the game to be forced to purchase some new thing to keep continuity up would be compleatly unfeasable, and downloading would certainly be out of the question, especially with the detail we're seeing here.
    What, then, has our nektulos become? As i recall several months ago, Absor (i believe) answered a Q&A about the future of everquest, and also, its history. Someone said that they'd love to be able to see how the Eldaar Forest WAS, before good ole' solusek sent those elves running. Absor said he actually agreed, but said that such a thing, a sort of history of everquest, a livable one,t aking place in a time hundreds of years before the current, was indeed an idea they were tossing around. I believe there was also a mention that this might possibly be included in EQ2. To me, this would make the most logical sence--The screenshots do indeed point to EQ2's announcement, and it will be based in our own familiar land, but ones drastically changed by centuries undone--or past. I look forward to seeing what comes to light! Post any thoughts, as usual.

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    RE: On zones...
    # Apr 23 2002 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
    Hey you guys, on castersrealm there was a news post that talked about a PS2 exclusive MMORPG in development. They called it Everquest Online Adventures. You can read it up at http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=4219
    The game supposedly takes place 500 years BEFORE EQ, so this might also be a possibility.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2002 at 6:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I would have to say 'Wolife' is full of doggie 'poo poo'.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2002 at 6:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You have quite an imagination, Wolfie. You know you could have leveled twice while thinking all that stuff up.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2002 at 6:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Agreed.
    bah
    # Apr 23 2002 at 6:06 PM Rating: Default
    i think an EQ 2 would be bogus, especially if they were new servers and you had to start completely over, i mean yea its cool and stuff but what about people who still havent played EQ too its full, by the time someone reaches their "prime" in the game everyone will be gone and left for Eq 2, so i pray to god its only another Expansion..

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    RE: bah
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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    I'll argue this with you. It'd be totally insane to allow characters to just "transfer" over to EQII when it comes out.
    It's going to be a completely new game engine, graphics, models, everything will be new. Probably a completely different magic and combat system, along with totally new items and ways those items will help players.

    EQII will probably end up being in the future sometime, most likely 500-1000 years from the time the current game is set in. That right there is a good reason why you'd not be able to carry your character over; your character would be dead.

    As for all this hub-bub about the riddles and hidden pictures, I personally think it's a new free zone. Sure, they never did this amount of publicity when the other free zones came out, but maybe they should have.

    Wailing caves sounds like it's a new lower level dungeon located off Nektulos Forest for all the little Dark Elves to play in. Call me crazy...
    RE: bah
    # Apr 23 2002 at 6:31 PM Rating: Default
    i totally agree with you =p i still got more stuff on eq that i need to see zones mobs places to go raid and of course i want to play other classes to the full so wtf? i do hope is not eq2 and if it is i hope it can be added to the curretn one or be able to trafer characters or something =p
    PLEASE
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
    OMG i hope its a one player eq cause im in a HELL WHOLE place were we cant connect to other servers... The ports are closed! So if its a non-online Eq I would Freaggin Cry thanking god... Sheessh the things i do for this game i rember the days before i played this game when i had a life
    RE: PLEASE
    # Apr 23 2002 at 6:54 PM Rating: Default
    this sounds good to i would play it wile the servers aredown for a patch or when ever im tired of lvling =p
    possibly SWG?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:31 PM Rating: Default
    Although I would like to see EQ2 being produced I wounder if Verant would have the resources to make such a game at this time. Verant and Lucas have been creating Star Wars Galaxies, a MMORPOG which is promised to come out this year. SWG was demo'd behind closed doors at last years E3 convention and I expect it will be demo'd again this year, but to for all eyes to see this time. Is this their "Big News"? I don't pretend to know but i expect to see quite a bit of Hype on SWG this year. I'm disappointed to hear that SWG will be revealsed without the Space areas with a promise to release the space pack shortly after. I would expect SWG to keep verant developers very busy for atleast another year.
    On the contrary, it would be possible to create EQ2 based off this new SWG engine, which would decease production time, though i would expect atleast a year just to develop the graphics for EQ2 alone. It is not unheard of to announce a game that far ahead of the projected release date so I'm not ruling out the possiblities of EQ2.

    Information about SWG can be found at:
    http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/

    RE: possibly SWG?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
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    Resources isn't the problem. Remember, Verant isn't Verant any more - it's Sony Online Entertainment, and given the success of EQ, they're probably one of the best funded game development organizations out there.

    SWG for example is a completely separate team, yes they share ideas, but SWG is developed out of St. Louis, while EQ is in San Diego. They might as well be separate companies. This isn't a question of resources.

    The main (ok, well the only) doubt relating to this being EQ2 is that EQ2's largest competitor would be, well... EQ. And the same company is developing Star Wars Galaxies, which is supposed to come in about a year (less). So, this means that the top 3 products in this market are going to be EQ, EQ2, and SWG?? Sony vs Sony vs Sony?

    Stranger things have happened though.

    I suspect though that even if this is an announcement of EQ2, it's quite a ways off.


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    RE: possibly SWG?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 10:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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    From an economic standpoint, competition from themselves is the LEAST of their worries.

    You have to look at this as market share. The more games they put out, (as different price levels / genres / requirements) the greater amount they control on the market.

    When SOE comes out with different games and ideas, they are able to appeal to a larger base number of consumers... if EQ, EQ2, and SWG in fact DO become the top 3 products in the market, they would have a MUCH higher profitablility than if they just had one...

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    RE: possibly SWG?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Star Wars Galaxies has its own, completely separate staff. They've been working behind closed doors for a couple years now, perhaps occasionally passing their advanced info back to EQ (some of the scripting in Luclin zones are concepts the SWG team has already talked about having). Conceivably, they could have done the same thing with a new EQ2 team, working in secret...

    I also imagine that since the SWG engine is so advanced, it could have been designed for multiple titles, which would cut production time on EQ2... But I agree that if EQ2 were announced in May, it could be up to 2 years before it was released...
    EQ II
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
    An overall sneak peek of EQ II was included in the current issue of PC Gamer which arrived in the mail today. The following are tidbits gleaned from the article. Please excuse any possible errors or mis-info.
    Required: PIII 733 or athlon XP, 512 MB RAM, GeForce3 or better video card.
    Back to original 3 continents. Velious, Kunark and Luclin are explained away.
    Freeport has fallen to evil and the Pallys have retreated to a Fortress of Marr. Likewise, Qeynos has ousted the Rougues and they have a new city.
    Iksar still walk Norrath though their Homeland gone. No Moon, no Vah Shir. Kerrans replace them.
    50% of zones new, the other half re-imagined.
    Zoning will be faster, but MOBS can chase across zones. Some will cease to pursue after a while.
    You start picking a race, appearance and sex. No stat points or classes.
    Newbie quests provide good rewards like a compass to end sense heading tedium.
    Takes 30 minutes to attain level 6. Then you decide to be fighter, priest, mage, rogue or tradesman. At 15 you start to specialize. Fighter for instance can choose among warrior, Crusader or Brawler. at 30 you finally specialize. Crusader can become Paladin, ShadowKnight or Ranger.
    Leveling will be faster and top out at 100 with support for future expansions to attain 200.
    Skills will include Knowledge, Technique and Arts. These will determine your ability to use items, weapons and armor which will be "transient" and breakable.
    This will put an emphasis on player made high end items that break and need to be replaced providing for a better economy.
    A 50th level weapon will also require the 50th level of Knowledge to equip it properly. Giving said item to a 10th level player will greatly reduce its effectiveness and increase the chance of breaking it. Goodbye to twinking.
    Dying becomes less onerous. Your corpse will remain for a time to provide for a rez, but you will spawn at your bind point with your equipment, minus an item or 2 depending on the circumstances. You will not, however lose experience. You will incur an experience "debt". You will continue to gain experience from the point you died, but a portion of what you gain will go into paying off the "debt".
    Bind points will be liberally scattered throughout and you will never be more than 5 minutes from one. No bind points in dungeons however.
    Banks will be localized and you will have to carry stuff from one bank to deposit into another. Players will need to buy horses, carts and boats for this purpose. There will be need to hire mecenary PC's to protect caravans with PC's good from NPC attacks on long journeys.
    PC's will be able to buy plots of land and build a simple, upgradeable structure on it. Invite friends to locate nearby and reach a minimum level to become a community with a guard tower and NPC guards patrolling your community which now can support community stuctures eventually resulting in playhouses providing entertainment as in weddings, plays, tournaments and so forth.
    Fighting will include picking a specific hit location for attacking MOBS and creature animation is said to be stunning. Griffons will be specks in the sky before they come rocketing down on you.
    Spirit of the Bear will show the PC slowly morphing into bear shape. A Bonewall damage shield will actually appear as a cage of bones topped with skulls all around the PC.
    Lastly a much higher level of polygons will allow for incredibly detailed landscapes and structures.

    Well there's a taste of the October of 2003 release.

    Wolfie
    RE: EQ II
    # Apr 23 2002 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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    I copied this to the main update page. This jives completely with what Baelish just posted at Caster's Realm.

    Thanks for the information Wolfie.
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    # Apr 23 2002 at 8:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Based upon the scan of one page of that issue I saw, I would say this post is likely true.
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    RE: EQ II
    # Apr 23 2002 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
    And if this is ALL true...EQ is dead.

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    I cannot believe they will trash the exisiting world...

    No Kunark?!

    No Luclin?!

    Come on Verant...

    And the scan is ONE PAGE so far...I need to see the rest for myself...
    RE: EQ II
    # Apr 23 2002 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
    Haha, i will not play EQ2. would anyone want to have different banks, so you will have to haul your items to different places to get them deposited? i for one will do no such thing. and making a plot of land, that sounds kinda stupid too. If verant has any PR ppl, they would see how ppl are rejecting the new Eq2.

    Everquest is great the way it is =)
    RE: EQ II
    # Apr 24 2002 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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    Personally, this "EQ2" as it's currently being described sounds a lot closer to my idea of an ideal MMORPG than the EQ we have now. Maybe they're hoping that it will be different enough to keep "original EQ" viable while also keeping people like me from wandering off as the next generation of MMORPGs hits the market.
    My guess
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
    If I had to guess, I'd vote EQ2. They've stated on the Safehouse boards that this will be something "new" that they'll be announcing, so that rules out the PS2 version, Planes of Power, and the d20 RPG. It's too soon to announce an expansion after PoP, and I don't know where you'd go after that anyway (killing the gods' gods?).

    Plus, setting up two separate new domain names seems a bit extravagant to announce a new zone or anything equivalent to that. I'd guess something big.

    The other option could be another entirely new MMORPG. We know they've been working behind the scenes for some time on SWG, but also on some other projects which go unnamed. However, the use of a EQ-specific name in the promotion of it seems to make that unlikely.

    At any rate, SOE has to show something good at E3. We're expecting to see NWN near finished, and AC2 and World of Warcraft (I hope) there, and all Sony has lined up so far is yet another expansion. I'm betting it will be big.

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    Planes of Power will run on the graphics engine that was imp
    # Apr 23 2002 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
    On the offical Planes of Power website...it plainly states that PoP will run on the Luclin graphics engine. So this hinting at being a new graphics engine would be insane unless Sony likes contradicting what they put out information-wise. If this was indeed EQ2...I'd guess it's an upgrade to all the continents in the world of Norrath that are currently established...mainly because if they did indeed create a EQ2, they would have to create all new servers to handle all the new info that would come with EQ2, right?
    A new EQ
    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
    Well...this is typical. Heck, they can't even patch the existing game without ******** something else up and there are *still* bugs in EQ that havent been fixed since the beta (yep, played that long, sad, huh?)

    Whether or not Sony is planning a new EQ or not is irrelevant. I probably wont be there as I refuse to buy a new machine just to play a game.

    Just my 2 plat worth
    RE: A new EQ
    # Apr 23 2002 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
    I gotta disagree with inspecting being rude...i know this is off topic..but in real life you wouldn't even know if i were inspecting you...
    RE: A new EQ
    # Apr 24 2002 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
    Yes he would. You would be trying to read the labels on his underwear...
    What is EQ3?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
    Is that one of those Fan Conventions? I'm embarrassed enough to admit to a lot of my friends that I invest so much time in a computer game. I'm sure as hell not going to draw extra attention to myself hanging out with other computer nerds wearing their cardboard versions of Golden Effriti Boots. There's a great Documentary called Trekkies that you oughta check out to give you some perspective.

    Anyway, those 2 screen shots look like better than what we see now so it's probably a new version of the game or engine or something. I'm not really concerned, whatever it is. They'll shovel it out and I'll keep eating it...

    (Those screen shots should definitely default to any monks in your group though.)
    RE: What is EQ3?
    # Apr 23 2002 at 10:11 PM Rating: Default
    I know what your talking about. I really hope there aren't people THAT crazy about this game to actually dress up in an out fit or anything. I like this game and it is addictive but dont get to into it! Well after reading most of these letters I think we pretty much got the idea that its gonna be somethin' fun! So I'm just going to sit back and wait to see what it is. For all the super nerds out there, snap back into reality and get a life. (This insult is to anyone who is a fanatic over comics and wears game related costumes)
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    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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    E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo) is the gaming industry's trade show. It's a huge convention held every year in Los Angeles, and every company that is involved in electronic gaming has a trade booth there. Thus, it is a great place to make a major announcement, since every major press agency has a representative there. For example, last year both the xbox and gamecube had their official debuts at E3.
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    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:31 PM Rating: Default
    Wouldn't make a lot of since to announce EQ2 when PoP is being developed.. It would bring down there sales of PoP because EQ would be better and everyone would flock to it /shrug my thoughts.. Might be a single player game though
    RE: Strange...
    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
    maybe the announcement is a new engine, and PoP will be run by the new engine!
    MY SPECULATIONS
    # Apr 23 2002 at 4:10 PM Rating: Default
    in no particular order
    1 - Everquest The animated Movie like final fantasy animation whatnot.
    2 - a new everquest type of game genre like adventure or puzzle
    3 - everquest 2... see there is this game mmorpg in the makings called boundless adventures and it wont be done for about 2 years or so but if you read what this game is going to have to offer on their website then you can tell that it would blow old school everquest out of the water and see everquest dont want to go bankrupt so they are going to make their own DINAMIC type mmorpg game with super crazy AI and graphics and stuff like that and yes it is sad but old school everquest will die out eventually atleast this is my prediction (this is my choice of what will happen)

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    # Apr 23 2002 at 3:55 PM Rating: Default
    Look at the trees in the Nektulos pic. They almost look like EQ trees, with their "box" type looks when you view them from just the right angle. I definitely think this is either going to be EQ 2, or a new graphics engine for those of you with super computers (mine's barely able to run Luclin). Either would be sweet as heck though.
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