i think this is a stupid idea for a server, lvl 51 and 50aa's... whats the point? If people are too lazy to play from the start why bother even playing at all? Why not just make a 85/5000aa server with full high end gear, with epics? There, your done. Happy now?

Lumadanea hit it right on the bullseye.

Truly my only real reason for wanting a 31/50 was that i am new at this, like the game and wanted a server where I coul try a higher level PC right off so that I could get more of a feel of the upper level of the game

i voted 51/50. not because they hand you the levels, to be honest i really don't think i'll even play on the new server, too much time invested on maelin, got an 85 ranger with over 2,230 AAs who i built from scratch. i chose it simply because its the only new option they've given. they have done progression already and look how that turned out, its not even that old and its already being merged with Druzzil because they blew through content as fast as they possibly could.

a few agruments i've heard against 51/50 is that you'll probably start with little to no skills / gear ect... which may be true, but i'd rather be level 51 with 50 AAs and semi naked, than level 1 with 0 AAs and naked.

and that you don't get the experience you need to know how to play your class. you can learn your class just as well at 51 as you can in levels 50 and below, being level 51 doesn't mean you can't learn to play your class well. most people didn't figure out how to play their first main class well till after 51 anyway, so thats a stupid argument. 1 - 50 may have been quite an achievement back in 99' and a hard earned one at that, but not anymore. even if its your first EQ toon, you can still blow through 1 - 50 pretty quick.

i see 51/50 as just a server to ***** around on when you're bored or want to check a class out that your thinking of making on your server. but if you REALLY want to grind 1 - 50, then make a character on any random server. besides, just because their going to have a new server doesn't mean you need to play on it. if you don't like what the people have chosen then stick to your current server.

but my votes for 51/50 with progression a close second, and thats only because i'd really like to do the sleeper event. other than that i've done all the raid content in the old world zones when it was still tough. though it's nice to reminisce about, i'm not aching to play through it again.

cheers.

I been playing EQ for 10 years and I even tried the Progression server for a month it SUCKED. Why because all the big guilds made toons just to finish it off as fast as they could. I like the old day where we fought for our stuff. Not this let's rush as fast as we can to make this server like the others. I think the game should go back to it's roots.

Revamp the old zones for high level toons. Not this time travel BS. But just make the mobs stronger or even upgrade Ldon and DoNs make a few new ones for higher levels and put upgraded stuff. Everyone loved the Ldons and DoNs. Even the high end guilds liked them. Plus some of us folks that don't like to raid ( that's me ). If Sony wants to save EQ just revamp and add more stuff. Give us epic 3.0's and make the game more for groups not for raids. Sure some folks love to raid and thats good but what about us few that can't raid because we work or have lives.

The defiant gear was a good idea to get some of us geared but then it died and some people took advantage of it. We just need more groupage in EQ not raiding BS. Thing that grinds my gears the most is with mercs you don't see anymore clerics but for raiding that's all they aren't worth playing anymore. Other then raids you don't need a cleric anymore.

It's sad you don't see anymore player Clerics on. My guild had to stop raiding because of lack of clerics. Now it's merc this merc that. I like the merc for somethings but they should let mercs in raids too. I feel the lower end raiding guilds can finally get up to the big raiders. Maybe let the raid leader buy a special raiding merc. Sorry to jump off the subject but progression server just wont work we had it before and its time for something new. We know what they guna do like the last ones they will go in beat in a week and then no one will want to play it again.

Well the people voted and there's not much else we can do just grin and bare it.

Geegen Painentheass
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My point is that we have already had progression servers, PVP servers, role playing servers, so why not try something different. If someone wants the same ole thing then just pick a server and start playing, lol.

1 new server , when populations on existing servers are so low is rediculous , and failure to learn form history means repeating it.

2 the dev chat as usual is all fluff and no stuff.

3 less than 2 percent of the player base ever sees endzone content while it is still viable and ytou can actually get ppl to want to go do it .

4 2 expansions in a row have near identicla content in as far its its is just a times sinc to go get group gear you just spent months getting last expansion';\
i mean for the majority of the player base .

5 wow and other games have smoked soe becasue they realized it is unfair to limit endd content to sucjh a small percentage of the population and have given everyone an opportunity to do it by scaling the content to smaller groups
eq could easily do this raids are 54 man 4 loots etc why is there not a version scaled for 30 or 36 that drops 2 loots. so that all the drama and and childish behavior over constantly finding people to raid for the top guilds would end .

6its a game not a job we all pay the same ammount to play yet soe continualy caters to only a small percentage of the player base and then wonders why it keeps shrinking .

7 eq is dying a slow painfull death now, and the folks at the top (the highest end guilds that soe listens too had better start to realize if thgey dont change thier ways, this game will be gone sooner than later .

if we expect eq to remain viabler and not lose the time investment we all have in it a lot of attitudes need to change among the players and at soe

umm i agree with you and i want to know why they are going to try and make another server when attendance is down? My opinion, want it or not,they should work on fixing the problems and bugs instead of trying to distract us from them. Why not help work out the grouping problems instead of putting mercs in the game ,which just makes it worse for people to get groups. There are a few other changes that would help the game greatly, like the Raid content ,though i do understand that is rewards for having a full guild of people that work together very hard and well to get the content, but for those small guilds they dont have a chance to get to those things, so should they penalized for not being in a large guild? Though with the last expansion they did add groupable content, it isnt much help. I am not going to go into a full explanation on how it could be done. There are many options available to improve the game and attendance. They for the most part have done a great job creating some very fun content, but at the same time there are a few things that should just not have been done or added. This is only my opinion and they probably dont care about it , but i love this game and i do care about it going on for another 10 years.

Edited, Mar 28th 2009 10:02pm by beinshady

Edited, Mar 28th 2009 10:04pm by beinshady

It shouldn't be all that surprising that people would vote for a 51/50 "easy button" server.

With the number of comments in various forums and in game from people demanding they be handed experience, AA's, Veteran Rewards, raid gear and access to "end content" as if it is somehow their right to have, without earning it, that which other players have put in time and effort to accomplish, well, it really isn't a surprise.

It's the "Entitle Me" generation, the "Gimme!!" folks, the "Johnny has it, I want it, now!" class of people. I honestly would not feel right to refer to them as gamers.